Sauce123 Common Mistakes & Strategy (6-Max $200 NLHE)
My first video. I tried to explain my thought process when going through every decision point in a hand and play in a non-standard way meant to exploit my opponents. I also tried to do some hand reading and point out some common mistakes of SSNL and MSNL players. Let me know what you think.
Category: Cash Game
Tags: Texas Hold’em, Cash Game, 6 Max
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Hi. This is Sauce123 for Flopturnriver and this is going to be my first video for F.T.R. I’m playing some one two six max. I’ve actually been at these tables for about a half an hour or so, so I’ve developed some reads and have a decent idea of how some of my opponents play. I’m going to play one two just because I feel like it’s going to be analogous to a lot of situations you’re going to see in almost every limit so our posters who are playing mid stakes. There’s going to be a lot of players who play mid stakes at these tables. There’s also going to be some guys just taking a shot, cashing in $100 or so and seeing how they do, who you’ll find at any stake.
There’s also going to be some solid regulars. We can also find some leaks in their game and try to exploit them. I’ve booted up my Poker ace H.U.D. As you can see, all I have is V.P.I.P., pre-flop raising and number of hands I have with them. If I need more, just double click and I have some more detailed stats.
Pre-flop wise, I’m not going to play any set strategy particularly except for the fact that I’m going to play pretty much every hand which I think is going to be profitable for me and take that for what it’s worth.
Veroy is the guy who I played with the most at these tables. I’ve played with him a fair amount at three six no limit and he’s a very tight, solid player.
Here Fullman limps, Jackie is probably ahead of his range and I’m in position, easy isolation and this should set up a profitable continuation bet for on most flops like this one. Dry flop with king 10 high. He’s going to miss his range pretty often. I’m going to make a little bit smaller bet than I normally would make because I have absolutely nothing and I can also double barrel his turn if I so desire but a deuce is going to be a bad card. I think he’s going to sack off with any 10 here. He’s not folding often and I’ve been isolating him and raising him pretty often so I should just fold to that for everything. I just treated that as a check, essentially. When he bets two dollars there, it’s even slightly weaker than check, I would say but I can’t trust him to fold there.
Four four, this hand’s actually playing really passively. I don’t expect to get re-raised. I’m actually going to limp here against to stack. He has 82. This can draw other players into the pot and get me increased value on my set. You can make a very valid case for raising here as well but if I can get four way action with a small pot relative to the stacks, the opportunity to hit my set, I think that’s going to be more profitable. Obviously I should have called the flop but what can you do?
Anyway, on the other table, we have Kanoa, who I’ve played with a few times as well, who my note just says, “Knit.” I assume that relates to post flop play. He’s not really into pre-flop playing, 23% of hands. I think he’s just open limping a fair amount which I haven’t been able to take advantage of and playing pretty weekly post flop.
Okay, so we’re not going to defend our big blind with off shoot aces ever. Deuce three, just going to open fold whatever happens. Sixes will probably play with the most action. Okay, so this is a good situation. As you can see, this is actually a little closer. Normally, had Fullman folded, I would probably re-raise here and I could still re-raise here and get it in against him but I think it’s almost better to call here because we have another multiwave pot where we can hit a set but that’s a very close decision. If we re-raise and the button folds, we’re going to get all in pre-flop around the flop around the 6016 player, be relatively happy about it but given that we have sixes, there’s going to be a lot of flops where we get in drawing to two outs just because the small blind happens to pair and then it’s kind of a bad situation, so just chose to call it pre.
I’m going to open king four suited in the small blind against the tight big blind. I’m also going to open king seven from the cut off against tight big blind. My opening requirements in these spots are more a function of my opponents than of my hand strength but I’m not going to be opening hands like four deuce off shoot, things like that that have absolutely no value. I’m going to be opening a lot of hands because when he does play with me, it’s going to be relatively easy to read his hand because he’s so tight. He’s calling here when you have two percent of hands and if he re-raises we’re going to fold so we can put him on a tight range after the flop and play accordingly.
Also, he’s going to fold so often that it’s like it should be very profitable. Ace 10 definitely going to raise it up to nine, which is raising a little more pre-flop to account for the limping. I would raise that anyway, even if there wasn’t a limper. You should widen your opening requirements when there’s a poster because there’s extra den money in the pot so it’s more valuable to win the blinds.
We get called. This is an interesting flop. This is one of those flops where against a tight player like Kanoa, I’m actually going to check behind here. There’s a few reasons for that. I can improve my hand because I have an ace kicker so he can hit second best hands there. I already have a decent made hand which can’t send a check raise and I can turn in a flush draw. I think that’s a really good spot to check behind because we’re not going to be called by worst all that often.
Now I’m going to aim to check it down unless I hit a 10 or something or obviously you can’t, so I’m not putting money in the pot if he bets. It’s really, really tempting to bet for value here but I think this player is tight enough that he’s not going to call it worse. Yes, he had deuces so we’re right. That’s like a really classic spot of when not to continuation bet. One big mistake I see players making is continuation betting too much and you can be a winner at pretty much any stakes up to like five 10, continuation betting like pretty much every time but you can be more profitable picking some good spots not to continuation bet and that’s one of them. When you have a player who isn’t going to be check calling a wide range of hands is pretty tight post-flop and you have a medium strength made hand and especially one like that, another big point favor is the re-draws we have.
It’s really good for us if he has a hand like ace nine or something, ace nine suited and return ace. We’re going to get a bunch of bets from him. Things like that or like if he has a good jack, king jack or something so also we can’t send check raise so if he check raises us in the draw, we’re also playing pot control so if he has any straight or flush draw, check raises us in that flop, we have to fold because he’s relatively tight and threatening our stack. That’s a disaster for us when he’s a draw equity-wise so it’s better to check behind and then call turn bets and most river bets.
Queen 10 offset in the button is pretty easy open against anyone so if one caller players, playing a lot of hands shouldn’t be too worried. Just going to bet the flop. I usually continuation bet five-sixths of the pot, personal preference, I like to get a lot of money in there fast, usually. You can definitely be profitable using … Oh, by the way, King4offzoot, even though we’re in the small blind against a very weak limping player, I’m just going to fold this hand just because it has no value and we’re just going to bet for value wrongly so often with it, like when we flop a king and we’re dominated, things like that because against a player, I guess I’m betting for three streets of value if I flop a king and he’s going to be calling down better half the time. He’s not going to be raising as often.
Okay, so queen deuce definitely not even going to play on the button, even though both these lines are very tight. That’s actually debatable. You could open close to any two here profitably, I think, but I’m going to shy away from the queen deuce opposite type of hands, keep things in check a little bit.
Five four suited, definitely a good spot to isolate the weak player. Ace queen suited open, so he calls as regardless and we just gin the flop because apparently I run really, really good at one two. Just sweet. He leads out for 10. This actually usually means he’s pretty large hand so I’m just going to try to get money in the pot, raise 34, get them all in the return and that was just about three times his raise.
I should have bet a little bit more so I had a pot sized bet after the turn so I’m just going to bet 70 and that essentially commits him. Here we have, this is … I’m actually going to call this with ace queen suit in position. Just because it’s such a small re-raise. It’s relatively close but I think we can play this profitably. This is a spot … On an uncoordinated flop like this, if I had better reads on this player, for instance if he three bet light or continuation bet very often on flops, I might make a bluff for certain things like that but against an unknown player when he raises from the big blind to my under the gun rays, it’s a pretty easy fold but just when you think about kinds of flops where it’s good to make moves with unimproved high cards in position, that’s a very, very nice flop to do so.
King queen suited here. This guy’s opening a lot of hands. This is one of those spots where calling and raising are both fine. I’m going to call just because I’m going to be forced to get in versus half stack if I raise. This is a spot where I don’t really don’t like to check raise and actually just like leading it out here better. I’m just going to lead out for 14. I think he’ll put me on the draw often and I’ll be able to get a stack.
Here on the king, he’s going to fold a lot to this turn but I still think we want to attempt to get his stack. Four four, all right, so this is just a standard value bet, flush mist, he’s definitely going to call down light so maybe made his … I don’t know what he’s … Four four against these two players, probably going to call, especially if this player is very tight though again, re-raising his definitely viable line. I’m actually just going to check fold this flop. Sometimes I’d lead out here, try to semi good value, semi protect my hand but against this guy who’s just going to call with any piece of the board doesn’t make sense.
Given this player checked here against this really weak player, this means that he has essentially nothing the vast majority of the time. Since he checked twice, I guess he has very little to … I’m just going to go and bet 12 into 22, try and protect my hand as like any card can kill my hand. I believe I should be ahead of both of these players a large amount of time so they both fold, that’s good because like any river card, I can’t put any more money in unless it’s a deuce. I’d rather just like, when I’m pretty certain I have the best hand on these boards, that’s one of the few places where protecting your hand type bets have value. Also Fullman will definitely call me with words there, like pocket threes, pocket twos, even ace high, maybe some different draws, like he got shots, things like that so the value bet as well, trying to give myself the initiative. I don’t want him bluffing over because I can’t really call bets.
I’m going to fold ace five suited here from the blinds. It’s tempting to call but it’s not going to be profitable. These suited hands just need position to be profitable so really, you’re only options there are raise, fold and I really don’t see any reason to raise when we probably don’t have a very large equity edge against the button.
We see this players opening king nine offshoots, this means he’s relatively tight so it’s not a good question that we’ll be pre-betting him in the future.
We’ve limped off from pretty aggressive player in the small blind. That’s a license to raise. I’m going to raise 6x, just win the pot right here. If he calls, I’m going to get a profitable continuation bet. It’s a great situation. Jack deuce, fold. Jack deuce, fold.
Anyway, so some people have been talking about blind defense. It’s something that’s difficult and generally in blind defense situations with your implied odds hands, generally out of position, you’re not going to get enough value on your cards to be calling with them and that’s a big mistake people make, like they make these slightly negative E.V. calls over and over with hand like jack 10 suited from the blinds, hand like queen jack suited, eight seven suited, seven nine suited, all those kind of mediocre hands.
Mostly the hands I’m looking to cold call with from the blinds and take flops three way are small and medium pairs, just because sets are easy to play out of position, you just put a lot of money in. It’s hard to misplace that. You just essentially bet until all the money’s in the middle and then move on.
Speaking of sets, let’s just flop one. Obviously, we’re going to continuation bet here. Let’s go 16 into 20, seems fine. Someone has an ace for me to action so obviously awful turn card. Check behind, try to hit a boat, hope he has a king and profit. Didn’t do that. He jacks. God, I’d love to value right here but it’s not even in the cards. You can’t do that, definitely not.
Here’s the second not to choose not to bet it on the river. Just probably a bad decision. I guess I probably have a reputation for bluffing too much which is why I made that play but that’s a spot, obviously I’ve lost showdown value where I definitely won’t be bluffing.
Here we have eight seven again, just one of those things where I’m definitely not going to be calling if he leaves his people open. I’ll probably re-raise the cut off and probably re-raise the button as well. I’m going to pop up to 22. The button’s unknown to me but bought in with a full stack which leads me to believe probably a competent player. I’m unknown to them, so I’d expect them to fold most of their button range here. Obviously when he shoves, this is generally ace king a very large percentage of the time at these levels so definitely going to fold.
My calling range there with no information on this player would probably be queens kings aces, probably ace king, so pretty tight which is maybe jacks. It’s just there’s certain players who are going to be shoving there with almost any pair, just to get me off my stealing range or something like that but I think without seeing them showdown some hands, getting a feel for their post off play, it’s not going to be profitable.
This guy seems pretty solid. He’s re-raised me. There’s a spot where you can call or fold. Both are fine. Eights is definitely near the top of my button opening range. I’m going to take a flop with this guy and see what happens. He instantly bets 32. That makes me think that he’s likely making his standard continuation bet in spots like this which is a big mistake. You shouldn’t be continuation betting all that often through flip pots. Definitely not every time so I should still be ahead of his range. I’m definitely going to call.
Queenfalls, if he bets again here. I’m just going to be forced to fold. He could be betting with ace king here but again, I don’t know how this player plays well enough to continue with the hand, though I think there’s a fair change that he’s bluffing here. I definitely don’t have the reads to play back at him.
Again, that call with eights there is pretty marginal against an unknown player though definitely not bad. Just because it’s one of those hands where you’re going to flop a mid pair or an ace or a king is going to flop and you’re going to have to fold the vast majority of the time. I actually think a more optimal play would just be to fold the eights in the spot, especially at these one two Millie games which actually play significantly more passive than games I’m used to.
I think folding would actually have been a better play there though I just want to take a flop with eights for the video. That’s a very typical situation where people would make a mistake where you call three bet from the button with eights and then flop mid pair and then the queen turn, he bets again. That situation where it’s actually quite close but really the bottom line is that until you gather more information on your opponents and how they play, you’re just not going to be able to stack often.
Jack nine suited is a fold under gun. I’d love to convince myself to play it but I’m trying to play pretty in line, especially since I don’t know my opponents. Let’s see what stat’s I’m running in this table off: 4031 and 2219, so in line. I’m aiming to play probably 25% D.P.I.P. or something, which is think is pretty optimal, something like that.
Here we have a 24 0 player on a king eight king flop. I think he’s never going to fold the pair to continuation bet and ace jack off suit has a lot of show down value so there’s another spot where I’m going to check behind. It’s going to be difficult. If you bet the turn here, he bets half pot. That doesn’t scream bluff to me. I’m getting good odds. It’s pretty close because he could be doing this with a work day high to pseudo protect his hand or he could be doing it with almost any pair. Collinstreet make decision on the river. Aussiejack’s check behind and he had a set, so make a note on this player that he … “No. Slow plays and bet half pot with a set,” and that’s like really valuable information. I’m not great about note taking but when I do it, I’m always grateful later, especially when I don’t play with a player for a month and they come back and check raise the turn on me after the flop goes check check and the I look at my note and say, “They like slow play and raise the turn,” and save myself a stack, so they really come in handy.
This guy, there’s going to be much, much easier to play against him in the future because that’s a very, I’d say illustrative hand of his playing style, a guy who has the mentality like, he checked the flop, he probably doesn’t have much like a second level thinker, a guy who’s thinking about my hand but on a basic level. He left. We can’t really put into practice.
Okay, so three bet here, two thirty seems good. This player is opening relatively wide range in the cutoff and we have a loose players and a small blind. Just got a three bet here, traveling the pot now, find if this guy calls, he should be ahead of his range. We’ll see.
Anyways, a player, so he was a player with the mentality of, “Oh, I’ve got to get him to call of worse. How am I going to get value from my hand,” when in fact he doesn’t understand the more advanced concepts of a range of hands and that really on that turn, I likely have a bluff catcher type hander error so he can really bet anything up to pot and it’s going to achieve the same result to get more value for his hand to build the pot.
Here, we have mid parent ace high board. This is another great spot check behind. It’s quite unlikely he has an ace and in this situation he calls from the small blind and our hand is, he likely has two outs. Check behind again the turn, you can make case for betting here against a more aggressive player but I’m trying to either induce a bluff from him which I can again call or value bet the river. I want to show as much weakness as possible in order to achieve one street of value from my impaired type hand.
I think he’s a hand with some showdown value here. Probably like a pair of nines or something is what I would guess. I’m just giving that 15 to 66. I think it’ll look like a bluff, see if we can get a crying call from him like maybe 10s or jacks so he folds. That’s not supposing. He probably thinks I slow played aces and kings, because people do that at this level.
Nine eight against two pretty solid blinds. Definitely an open. Five three is a hand that I’m going to open against an unknown, though this is definitely borderline but it’s definitely a good idea, especially against players who don’t defend tenaciously to open a really wide range from the small blind. Just because they’re generally going to have a weak end and they’re going to give it up to you often.
Okay, I’m going to call in position with sevens here. He opened a five X. I don’t know if this is standard for him or not so I’m just going to err on the side of caution and call in position with a decent hand.
Interesting spot. This guy leads for pot. This is another one of the situations where I could easily call folder raised, depending on my reads, given that we haven’t seen him show down hand yet. I’m just going to fold because if we play now, we’re playing for stacks. We’re not going to fold the turn, if I like to call the flops so this isn’t really a commitment decision if we’re committed to the hand and I don’t think we should be, though keep in mind that’s a great place for him to stab at the pot and if he’s betting almost any two cards there, obviously we crush his range but if he’s betting, he could be slow playing queens, could have jack 10 and not be folding. He could have a wide range and also he bet pot as opposed to a more stab-like bet. Until we know what hands he’s showing down, just going to give him some credit.
Definitely, your worst option there is to call and then fold to any turn bet. Just because if he’s bluffing, you don’t get value from his bluff, if he continues it and you really want to have a plan if you chose to call that flop. Not just like, “Oh, I have a pair, he might be bluffing. I’ll call and see what he does in the turn.” That’s not the right line of reasoning. You want to make your decision whether you’re committed to the hand on that flop and go from there.
However, you could just do some other things like for instance if I had air there, if I had five four suited on that board, I could definitely raise and then fold to a shove even if it was only 50 more because it doesn’t matter. My pods, if I have zero outs basically and that would be completely acceptable basically. I think he’s going to fold any underpair and I have a read that he’s leading out with feeler bets. That’d be completely viable line.
That brings me to another concept too which is when you have hands which are way ahead or way behind, sevens are a perfect example, we’re crushed by any jack but we’re way ahead of air which is really his range. When we’re in spots like that, that’s really good spot to call and allow him to continue bluffing if he’s bluffing as opposed to Rays and get worst hands at the pot.
Okay, so deuces on king queen three. This is a spot continuation bet, essentially turning my hand into a bluff. Obviously, if I get called here, my deuces are pretty much wrecked though we could potentially call it jack 10, ace jack or ace 10, something like that which I’m ahead of but obviously if he raises a doubled hand. Human raises, this is just trivially easy fold. Doesn’t really matter what he has, though we’ll just remember that this player’s been raised, there’s a spot where we have mid pair, just going to fold this. We don’t know how this player plays very well, though we know he’s played solid so far.
There’s another spot, this guys folded to my isolation, raises from the big blind so far. I’m just going to do it again. Folds again. That’s great. Free money.
Eight seven suited. This is definitely a good spot to isolate. I’m just going to raise up to 10, try to discourage the blinds from playing in the back of me. Ace three, this is another important spot where you should fold, though it’s very tempting to call, not going to be profitable to call that position here.
Re-raising is definitely viable. I’m not going to do it. Okay, so we got heads up. This is actually really great flop to double barrel against the cold callers range out of position so I’m just going to bet 16 on the flop and bet a lot of turns. If we get raised here, obviously we’re done or if he folds, then we already win. The reason why that’s great a double barrel on queen six three flop, the likely hands that he’s cold calling with from the small blind as a relatively tight mediocre player are going to be hands like five four suited, six seven suited, eight seven suited, seven nine suited, things like that as well as your small and medium pairs and then the occasional queen jack suited, king queen suited type hand.
On that flop, if you notice if he takes the line to check and call that flop, the vast majority of his hands are going to be out of the range of hands, sorry, are going to be in that category which folds to a turn bet, hand like pocket eights because if I bet the turn, I could be in a flush draw, I could be in an over pair, I could have top pair betting for value. I could even have hand like pocket jacks or 10s waiting for value and he’s not going to be able to make a profitable call against that range. Even if he’s not thinking that deeply, he’s going to be like, ”Wow, he bet twice, my mid pair probably isn’t as good.”
Taking into account his pre flop range, and how that connects with different flop textures and how he’ll perceive our range if we bet twice, we’ll allow you to make good decisions on when to double back. That’s a good example of a board to double barrel and I would have had he check call the flop. Potentially even triple barrel certain rivers but that’s another story. We have to analyze this reactions times to certain bets.
This is, by the way, a great place for a re-squeeze because he’s going to be isolating one person with a wide range and he likes to call. However, this player knows I play very aggressively. I have an absolutely terrible hand and I’ve been pretty active. I’m just going to fold. Secure the same player, opens under the gun, ace getting suited, just because re-raise, probably should raise 30, doesn’t matter though. I like to go a little bit over pot when I’m in that position.
Okay, so he makes a mini four bet. This is actually really tough spot for me. I think people who play these limits more regularly could give me better advice but I’m going to shove here with ace king suited, just because I’m used to people for bet bluffing in spots like this so I’m going to put that in range and he’s played aggressively in every pot with me so far.
I’m just going to put all the money in the middle. We’re only in big dog aces and it’d be great to get in a fold and win a big pot with … We win a big pot pre flop which is always huge, those are great equity-wise. Right, so we fold it, so it’s great.
Making note on this player. “Capable of four bet folding and then parenthesis for bets small.” This leads me to believe he’s a pretty solid player, that’s like “advanced play.” That’s actually decent spotting against me to make that play. I’m going to be folding a lot of my free betting range though I’m not going to be free betting his light under the gun as it was not my positions but it’ snot a bad spot.
Okay, so here I’m actually going to raise from the blinds. I’m going to make it 13. I like making a bigger raise from the blinds to push out players in position, hopefully win the pot pre-flop. This player had folded to my last isolation play, which is essentially why I was making this raise because when he folds, it’s great for us equity-wise.
This is a pretty bad flop for us. I’m just going to check fold here. We definitely have showdown value and so he bets 1626. There’s another place where it’s tempting to call but we actually can’t so I’m going to fold. That was another one of those spots where continuation betting turns our hand into a bluff essentially because if we’re raised or called, we’re shutting down and we have showdown value already. All continuation betting does is protect our hand.
We really don’t have that much hand to protect. We’ve a pair of fives on that board. It’s just better really to check and then if the flop goes check check, to make a small bet on the turn and potentially get called by where it potentially protect our hands. We can also turn our hand into a bluff if an ace came, maybe queen falls, and get credit for it, represent big cards, which is what people normally raise with.
In that flop, that’s just such a dry flop and it hits a limp college range so hard that it’s probably just better to check and fold. This guy opens 10 again, jack high suited. Not going to play well when we have one and a half pot size bets left.
This is another spot. I’m going to open queen five suited, because all these players are really tight. That should be profitable against them. This is more for our steel equity in our hands, actually equity. I wouldn’t open queen five off but I think queen five suit is strong enough to open here because they’re going to fold so often, we win the blinds. Ace jack, definitely an open under the gun plus one.
This guy limps yet again from the small blind. I’m just going to raise it up to 10. If he calls, it doesn’t matter. Obviously, a fold is slightly better for us but also, it’s good to know that he’s not adjusting to our 100% pre-flop raise when he limps our small blinds which says something about his playing style.
We can essentially continue to raise and re-raise him forever, if he hasn’t adjusted yet, I would doubt that he’s ever going to adjust. Five three off suit is another hand, temping to play but it’s not going to be profitable out of position even with pods as good as these.
It’s surprising to me, actually, how tight these tables play. You almost think that higher stakes games generally are going to be tighter but in fact, it seems like the opposite is true. Generally you have a lot looser action at five ten, ten twenty, twenty-five fifty even. Open ace 10, again this guy’s very tight, definitely an open jack six from a small blind and he’s using autoex buttons.
That’s a good thing to note too. If we have a really disgusting hand like deuce seven or something, we can just min raise from the small blind and he’s going to auto fold like 90% of his hands in this spot so we can actually just take advantage of that at least once. Ace queen, just going to re-raise to 26 from the button, just pushing our pre-flop equity and we should be good against the calling range so this is the first time he’s raised so if he re-raise us, tries to get in, we’ll definitely going to fold. Here, king high flop, continuation bet, should be profitable.
By the way, I open jack in off suit because the big blind’s so tight again. We’re going to take advantage of these tight players by trying to steal their blinds with a very tight range. Definitely going to open queen three suited against these three really tight players. Definitely going to be profitable.
As you can see, we’re winning a lot of pots but where are we ranking in this game? 3730, so pretty loose, pretty loose, aggressive, I guess but it’s good to keep in mind that we’re not running loose aggressive because, “I’m a loose aggressive player.” We’re running it because we’re making a concerted effort to adjust to the players in our game and then take advantage of their mistakes. When you’re playing against tight players, we’re probably playing a lot of tables, you’re not going to make a lot of money when they’re in the pot with you, especially because generally your starting hand is going to be weaker. Generally, you’re going to come and raising with the initiative, raising and re-raising. You’re going to either have to play from behind or fold often. Those few times you pick up aces or kings, you’re usually going to get paid because they’re going to pay you off lighter but generally they’re in the pot with you, it’s going to be bad.
How we offset that equity and win money from them is by stealing a lot of pre-flop, stealing their blinds often, raising to 10 here, king nine, he folds for the fifth time in a row.
We’ve a limper here, aces, just going to raise it up to 12, see if we get a limp re-raise or something. I like to raise more when I have a position, definitely open ace three suited from a small blind against tight big blinds. Very easy, raise.
Here we fought the gut shot. God, this is so tempting to raise with all the dead money in the pot but 410 is so weak and I’m going to raise him like every hands. It’s like, let me tell you about this guy again. We’ve got gut shot over card, we’re half full to a raise here, unfortunately but he really hasn’t been playing back at us so just take that one down. This player limps. Sixty-four is a little weak. Just going to fold that. Six four suited out of raise here. Trying to isolate the weak player and get some folds. Sorry, I was just texting something in video screen just like one pot. Jack three off suit, going to fold.
Unfortunately, we haven’t really gotten into too many interesting hand reading situations, mostly because people just hadn’t wanted to play back of me for some reason. We haven’t been making any big calls or things like that. Been trying to talk about different flops and hypothetical plays we can make against their range, if they were to say check call or check raise flops. We haven’t gotten too much. We’ll see. See what’s going on here.
We have a limp pot and the limper goes in and bets a continuation bet type thing. Interesting. Kanoa’s style, let’s just say, we make a note that says, “Check raises in limped pots,” if I can type. I generally think that leading is often better in limp pots because the pre-flop limper shouldn’t be seen continuation betting nearly as much as they would if they were the pre-flop raiser.
I’m more likely to lead with my strong hands in draws. Try to drive even stronger hangs out. If they have king high and I have six five off suit in the spot, I would have lead the flop and gotten a better hands fold, which Is obviously a fundamental theorem of Poker mistake you don’t want to induce, so it is interesting.
We overbet in the river when the flush hits. From this player, ace full suits fold. From this player, what are we going to put them on here? A check raise and then turn to his check check? You have to put this player in a flush here. It seems unlikely to me that they would have checked a full house in the turn because the ace paired and the most likely hand of the limper would then most likely be ace something.
Kanoa likely had a full house there and was hoping that Barsk or whatever was going to call down to the set. I think it’s pretty unlikely that he unfold an ace here. He probably had something, something weaker.
This is another spot, under the gun, pocket eights definitely not going to continuation bet here. This flop just hits all these callers in his range real hard and if we hit in an eight or a 10, we have a chance to be good but it’s unlikely they’ll get checked around. This guy’s obviously not folding when he leads 20. He probably has a top pair and took it, so fold’s definitely your best option.
A deuce fold. Let’s check out my stats in each table, so 3730, we’re up a little bit over a buy in, running well. Here, we’re running 2421 and up, almost two out.
King Jack out suit, this is a hand which a lot of people play in this spot. I don’t think it’s going to be profitable for me. Out of position, it’s a hand that’s easily dominated and mutliway, there’s going to flop top here and get in against two pairs and a sets and stuff and just get rocked.
We’ve an aggressive player opening from the small blind, it’s a really easy raise with jacks. I’ll probably get all in pre-flop here if he shoves. It’s pretty tough to beat jacks. Heads up. I’d be pretty happy to get it all in pre-flop, so he folds which is good result.
One thing I think some players misunderstand is that they think it’s better to get calls with hands like Jack jack, preflop then folds, and jack jack has a borderline hand, like it’s usually better to get a call with queens plus but with a hand like jack jack, like if he opens to eight and we re-raise 26 and we can just take down the $11 in the pot pre-flop, that’s unusually going to be better for us than if he calls because we have $11 in profit on that hand. If we see it flop, it’s going to be a lot of times when we flop mid pair when we flop an over pair and he’s a bigger over pair. There’s a lot more bad things that can happen.
Almost always, unless you have like pocket aces or kings and he raises or re-raise pre-flop and your opponent folds, that’s not a bad result for you. That’s usually your best result. I mean obviously besides the other result which is you flopped enough to get all it and they’re trying to one out but I mean, like if you’re true results are them calling and seeing a flop or you taking it down pre, usually taking it down pre is better for you equity-wise.
Three six, these guys are both going to be calling a lot of bets out of position and three six just is going to play real shitty. We’re going to flop bottom pair and nothing and then just like be against some guys who’s going to check call with top pair and a picker for three straights and we’re going to get just rocked so just fold.
This players is open a huge amount of pots. This is a good situation of a guy who I’m not going to play back at without a hand that’s beating his range and I’m probably going to be okay getting all in with and he’s being such a big pre-flop raise so that if I re-raise him, I’m basically committed with this stack size.
Queen eight off suit, I’m going to open here. That’s one of the worst hand’s I’ve open but then again, these guys are not defending their blinds often, though he does for once. We’re definitely going to fold, though this deep, you can make a case for calling with queen eight suited or something but queen off suit, we’re going to flop top payer and be dominated by his aces kings queens jacks, 10s, et cetera and just loose medium to large size pots, be playing pot control if we hit our hands so we really have to hit set for anything good to happen.
Here this guy raises a 22 over under the gun rays. We’re relatively short. If we flop even mid pair, we’re going to have to get all in against him so I’m just going to fold pre-flop here. He hasn’t been doing a lot of re-raising though he has been very active. I definitely think fold is our best option there. Probably shoving is actually better than calling there, in position when he three bets are under the gun rays with the eights, just because we’re going to get out played from the flop so often.
Okay, so this is interesting. We have a guy running 15 eight who prebet me over 102 hands which is not that small a sample size. We’re getting great odds here with queen jack suited. This is really close. I think a fold is probably better which is what I’m going to do. I really wanted to call it on. Obviously, had I called and gotten in on this flop, I probably would have let out and called the shove. It’s like I wouldn’t expect him to continuation bet ace king three way. We want to get those high card hands out of the pot. Queen jack off suit definitely raising from the small blind and then too much betting on ace flop is just mandatory.
They’re getting all in here. We’ll see what they show down, see if our queen jack was a quote. Our results oriented good fold. Looks like it was, so we’ve queens and kings so as you can see, queen jack was in pretty bad shape, pre-flop, so even though we were getting good odds, obviously you can tell that, we hit a queen or a jack, we’re probably not going to check fold, it’s a difficult spot to check fold. We’re going to get crushed. Here, what pause we in? We’re getting … I’ll just fold.
Here, just going to give up here. Ace ace three six. He can have a hand like pocket eights here which we can get off the check rates, which is not a good spot. He doesn’t ace very often, especially with a 25% D.P.I.P., he’s probably playing almost any ace and almost never re-raising so he’s all aces in this range.
It’s check fold which he missed. Continuation bet was good but double barrel there would definitely not be profitable. Deuce five, going to fold even though we have a tight big blinds. Going to open queen six against a tight big blind for sure. Six deuce, definitely a fold.
If you’ll see from my pre-flop stats, I’m playing the majority of my hands from the cut off in button and in comparatively very few from under the gun, or the gun plus one and the blinds and that’s incredibly important for winning poker. You just really want to be winning blinds, attacking the blind’s position and forcing your opponents to play pots of you out of position and coming in most of the time with the initiative when you’re out of position to combat that.
Okay, so this guy leaves out for two. I’m going to make a pretty big raise here with king deuce. I want to try to get all the money in the middle here, if he has a weaker king, so there’s a slight overbet but I don’t think my opponent’s … This guy’s not, I don’t’ think he’s going to fold much.
That’s an awful card. Not awful I guess but not great. I don’t think we can raise here even with the second out flush drive. I just think we have to call so he bets two, I really would be surprised if he had a better hand than this here. Pot’s 43. I’m going to raise to 30 and try to get value from a weaker king, through this is a thin value raise, by the way.
We’re going to get cold called here by better sometimes but when he min bets two straights, it’s very hard for me to put him on a better hand than kings and deuces. He’s obviously going to fold a lot of the time but so he hits two pair in the river. That’s unfortunate but what can you do?
I think if the ace doesn’t fall, we’re going to stack them there the majority of the time so then this tight player three bets us ace eight off suit, plays awful against his range of ace queen plus, 10, 10 plus. Definitely going to fold.
As we can see, this guy’s not folding top pair, make a little note though I guess we already knew that. Going to mock queen three.
Okay, this is the spot I’m going to check behind again as I have. I’m not going to run a flush draw and handle some showdown value. I’m going to bet this turn, I picked up some outs and I can potentially double barrel here and try to get him off hand like pocket eights. Going to bet twelve and 215 and he calls. I don’t expect him to be on a flush … Oh, so he leaves that for 24 relatively quickly on this river. I’m just going to give him credit for, he could have a king, could have a lot of different hands here. We have nothing. Our bluff raise is definitely tempting in this spot but I don’t think that players smart enough to check raise the river there with a flush.
Given that he’s not going to check raise the river there with a flush, I think a flush is a big part of his range. I’m just going to fold.
By the way, people looking for spots for good river check raises, that’s a really good example, a spot where you’ve called, this is especially against good players where you’ve called out of position and you check call your flush draw and then, when you hit your flush, it’s a great place to check raise because your opponent is going to be bluffing some of the time when he’s in position and you want to give value from those bluffs. Besides that, he’s going to be betting for value quite thin, very thinly because you haven’t really represented a strong hand by check calling, you’ve represented mid pair, small box type pair so he’s going to be betting top pair for value.
Then, good players will often turn hands like mid pair into a bluff pair and try to represent the flush so then you could often get your opponent to call your check raise as well with just top pair and so you gain an extra big bet which is huge.
Jack three suit I opened on the button against these two tight blinds. As you can see, even though I’m getting pre-bet pretty often, especially at this table or I have been lately, I’m not going to slow down. These players are not going to adjust to my aggression enough that I should slow down, I don’t think. I’m still going to open a very wide range and try to keep stealing their blinds and I think that’s going to be … Occasionally, when I have my big hands or even when I have hands like ace ex suited, I may throw in a four bet bluff occasionally if they continue to re-raise me often but I’ll take that when it comes.
Queen jack suited definitely raised especially with the two position players playing pretty tight. We’re not going to get people pulling crazy shit on us in our position too often.
All right. I’m going to call the video pretty soon. Didn’t have too many tough spots this time. I’ll make some more. I don’t even … I’ll probably get some comments on this, too. People want me to talk about and go from there but hopefully this was interesting.
Steve, you guys learn anything? I think one two’s a pretty good limit to make videos at because the majority of posters are playing between ten cent, 25 cent and two four, no limit and I think you’ll have players representative of all those limits sitting at a one two table and can figure out some ways to exploit them.
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