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    Default 5 card draw, draw for GSSD or for back doors

    PokerStars Game #32604395167: 5 Card Draw Limit ($0.10/$0.20 USD) - 2009/09/08 15:02:13 ET
    Table 'Eureka VI' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Nickolay59 ($3.84 in chips)
    Seat 3: Natacha1982 ($1.82 in chips)
    Seat 4: surviva316 ($3.74 in chips)
    Seat 5: rperez39 ($5.79 in chips)
    Seat 6: TappinDat ($2.87 in chips)
    Natacha1982: posts small blind $0.05
    surviva316: posts big blind $0.10
    *** DEALING HANDS ***
    Dealt to surviva316 [3c 5h Ah Ts 4h]
    rperez39: folds
    TappinDat: folds
    Nickolay59: calls $0.10
    Natacha1982: calls $0.05
    surviva316: checks
    Natacha1982: discards 3 cards
    surviva316: discards 1 card [Ts]

    still pretty new to this 5 card draw thing, so i'm not sure about the maths here. villains are both passive and are pretty loose pre-draw, so if i draw even just a pair of aces, then i can have it be checked around and take the pot a lot of times.

    should i just go for my 1/12 chance for the straight, or should i draw both the T and the 3 and go for a very meager shot at the straight + meh shot at the flush + all sorts of pair of A's or better possibilities?

    i understand i should be more likely to go after the backdoors if ANY of the two cards were connected and less likely if my opponents are tighter and more aggressive
  2. #2
    I think dropping the T & 3 is a bad , you are better off discarding the 345


  3. #3
    I draw 4 to the ace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian1175
    I draw 4 to the ace.
    that exactly

    opponent draws 3 so he has a pair or highcards ldo.
    when you draw to the 2, you will make a straight 4/42 times or less than 10% of the time, and a pair of aces 3/42 or 7% of the time.

    When you discard 4 and keep the ace you will make a pair of aces
    ( (3/42) * (38/41)^3 )*4 or roughly 23% of the time.

    obviously then he can make trips, and you can make trips, and you can make kings or queens that beat his TT... and so on.

    The only time you ever want to draw with a 10% chance of making a hand in 5-draw is when you are pretty damn sure that one or more opponents have a monster that they are willing to pay you off with. What's the point in making a straight against a pair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLR View Post
    I think dropping the T & 3 is a bad , you are better off discarding the 345
    I agree - discarding four looks weak, but would listen to an argument in its favour.

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