Quote Originally Posted by Shotglass View Post
I'm wondering what you've seen that makes you consider him as loose/passive in only 10 hands. What have his actions been prior to this? Has he taken anything to showdown? etc, etc. Which leads to: What sort of PF calling range would you put him on and are you ahead or behind that range?

I believe him to be loosepassive coz he's like 80/10 over the hands I have so far.

I'm not sure that I like the 3bet pre OOP in this case, facing a raise & call. With no reads on the btn, you could be up against a decent hand. I'd just call pre.

flatting pre is meh, CO's range has alot of hands that dominate us.

To answer your question OTF, you can c-bet smaller to get away cheaply, about 1/3 pot, but the flip side of that is that you offer him better odds to continue. On top of that, you call him loose/passive which implies that he's going to continue unless it's really obvious that he needs to fold and even a 3/4PSB prolly won't do that.

IMO he folds the flop with a decent portion of his range, and even if he doesn't, he folds lots of that on the turn, so cbetting to set up a brl is gonna be super +ev.

If the btn is truly loose/passive then the whole hand is played like crap because you don't want to bluff these guys and you don't have a hand until the river.
Again, a very narrow range of what defines a loose passive fish imo.