200BB's Deep, KK allin?

You are holding KK in MP and have 200BB's....UTG with 100BB's raises 4x, you 3 bet and then Button goes insta allin with 200BB's. UTG folds. This is $50NL FR and you have no reads on villain...he just joined the table. Hero? Is this AK, QQ, KK enough to be +EV? Or is this AA every time?

This better be AP where you can buy-in 200bb deep or you should certainly have some kind of read.

Either way, gross spot, I generally lean towards calling here.

Lol @ he just joined the table with 200bb's. Normally I fold this for 200bb's vs. sane opponents.

It depends. For what it's worth, I try to avoid playing 200 deep in games where this isn't a no-brainer either way.

I only call if it's an easy decision. Sounds like a spot I avoid, so folding seems best. You have to have a good enough read in this spot to make the difficult decisions, and since you don't have any reads...

Originally Posted by BankItDrew

I only call if it's an easy decision. Sounds like a spot I avoid, so folding seems best. You have to have a good enough read in this spot to make the difficult decisions, and since you don't have any reads...

I'm with Drew. I'm working hard lately on getting away from hard decisions against total unknowns. They are too costly, imo. I fold against ANY huge bet until I've played 30 or 40 hands against someone and have SOME kind of read. Or I try to. Wish I was better at it!

if he just joined the table you have to call.

Originally Posted by Fnord

It depends. For what it's worth, I try to avoid playing 200 deep in games where this isn't a no-brainer either way.

this quote has all the answers. On AP its a no-brainer fold.