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    Default 25nl: Fish open limp calling 4bet range?

    $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
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    Stacks:
    UTG HarrySonkk ($25)
    UTG+1 MrBangkok ($26.78) agro fish running 45/38, 6 agg factor, 55% agg frequency and 12% 3bet, over 71 hands.
    I think at the time i had no real reads apart from hes real agro, spazy and steals a lot
    MP TonnaMunz ($25.70)
    CO makitus ($42.61)
    BTN Yztud ($25)
    SB Timballa ($5.57) 18/7 over 17 hands
    BB yuandejing ($10)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.35, 7 players) TonnaMunz is MP
    1 fold, MrBangkok calls $0.25, TonnaMunz raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Timballa raises to $3.75,

    when shorty 3bets us were not really worried. I range him something like {TT+,AQs+,AKo} which we have 53% against so obv our plan is to get his remaining $1.82 stack in pre


    1 fold, MrBangkok calls $3.50,

    Open limp call seems pretty weak I think such a argo fish would be doing this with a pretty wide range and would be willing to call and stack off with his AJ+ TT-QQ (maybe even wider) I discount AA and KK because I think he would limp RR instead of limp call.

    TonnaMunz raises to $9, Timballa goes all-in $1.82, MrBangkok calls $5.25


    Flop: ($23.82, 3 players, 1 all-in)
    MrBangkok checks,

    He flats which is fine as well. He would be c/r or c/c ing most of his range or at least overpairs or overpairs and AK. so we ship because we have him crushed and only need 41% equity vs his calling range. If he calls here with
    QQ-TT (86%) or
    QQ-TT,AKs,AKo (80%) or

    or if we include AA and KK
    JJ+,AKs,AKo (55%) or
    JJ+,AKs (44%) or
    TT+ (49.6%) or
    JJ+ (37%)

    TonnaMunz goes all-in $16.70, MrBangkok calls $16.70

    When I played this at the table i felt like i was really confused and played badly but looking back at it now I feel i played it well lol almost not worth posting haha well it's already typed :P Pretty sure you could easily guess what he showed up with. Anyway would you guys play it differently? How's my thought process? 4bet bigger?
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    I think that maybe if you 4b to $9 for value against this range, then you can also shove and he will call all the same? This might be better because with that range, lots of cards on the flop can scare him off and convince him not to continue. What do you think?

    Also:
    so we ship because we have him crushed and only need 41% equity vs his calling range
    I think this is wrong. When you open-bet the flop, it's because you have more than 50% equity against his calling range (and because his calling range makes up a significant percentage of his whole range). Not sure where you got that 41% from?

    Other than that I think it's played well.
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    play of the hand looks fine to me. where did you pull 41% from though?
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    yeah 4bet jam does make more sense. Especially if the flop came A high and he jammed.
    yeah i'm retarded dw about the 41% haha its just a product of writing that at 2am last night :P

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