50NL

So, I got bored with 20NL and moved up to 50NL even though I was underrolled for it. I had a minor adjustment downswing - mainly a dry of cards - for the first 500 hands, but on the whole.. man.. it's not too much different from 20NL at all! The money is just better. It's definately gonna be my new home. The sad thing is, I'm not gonna be able to play poker anymore for a month or so..
I've stretched the delay of putting effort into my exams to the maximum so now I have to hit the books like crazy. Too bad .

Anyway, here are two screenies from my one-day 50NL adventure. Especially the first one is kinda cool, my biggest pot ever

why are u not using miniview on that network?

when the day comes where even your full houses is not enough to win a pot youll be sorry if your underrolled.

Not to burts your bubble.... but i won 1k playing 50nl Friday.

Originally Posted by Soulless

when the day comes where even your full houses is not enough to win a pot youll be sorry if your underrolled.

What he said.

Whats ur bankroll now?

What HUD are you using there? I found Gametime+ to be too messy on that network and many others, so I only use a HUD on Party Poker. That one looks neat.

A friend of mine who is learning poker plays 20NL 6-max on that network at my place. Those 20NL games are not as soft as I had imagined. I don't think the difference in level of play to 50NL and 100NL is very big at all.

why are u not using miniview on that network?

hm?

Originally Posted by Soulless

when the day comes where even your full houses is not enough to win a pot youll be sorry if your underrolled.

I hope I'll be rolled by then lol. It kinda sucked to be underrolled, because it affects my playstyle. I had to make a laydown or two where I really wanted to call - because I thought the guy was full of shit - but I couldn't afford it. When I have 20+ buyins they would be auto-calls. But it doesn't matter at this point. I was just bored with 20NL and I wanted to probe the game at 50NL.

Not to burts your bubble.... but i won 1k playing 50nl Friday.

Congrats. But what bubble? I haven't made much profit there yet. I just thought it would be "hella hard" there, but it was just as idiot-infested as 20NL basically, with a few more good players probably. I was kinda happy about that, because it is good for the long term.

Another thing, you say you "won". Do you consider yourself to be gambling? If I make money, I think of it as having EARNED it in poker. Not gambling and "winning".

Whats ur bankroll now?

$400. I hope that after my exams, when I can start playing again, I hope I will have found another $400 somewhere to put in my account. 16 buyins should be enough there. The money on 20NL is just too slow. The game on 50NL is very beatable, so I really want to be playing there.

The initial plan was to grind it out til $800 at 20NL, but I got too curious for 50. I'm looking at a month break now. I might very well start up at 20NL again then to get back in the game though.

Come to think of it.. by Andy's definition I'm actually rolled for it. The $60 I started with is now $1k, it's just that $600 is cashed out. But I consider my BR to be what I have in my online account.

What HUD are you using there? I found Gametime+ to be too messy on that network and many others, so I only use a HUD on PP. That one looks neat.

Poker Office's Live Tracker. It's the built-in HUD. I'm having it display VP$IP/PFR/aggr factor/nr of hands.

A friend of mine who is learning poker plays 20NL 6-max on that network at my place. Those 20NL games are not as soft as I had imagined. I don't think the difference in level of play to 50NL and 100NL is very big at all.

I lack the longterm experience to make a definite call about this, but 10NL is basically the lowest stake at prima/unibet, so all the idiots are there. The game on 20NL is already different, and I had some problems there initially, but once you get accustomed to it, it just requires a slightly different approach but it's just as beatable. 50NL felt a lot like 20NL, just a bit more tough players, but they are easily identifiable. If 100NL again isn't too much harder that would be great, but yeah, that's still far off for me. Not in the least because I can't poker for a month

Jack, read the newbie circle of death thread. I was in your exact spot before. I grinded my roll up to 500 nicely playing 25nl, and thought i was hot sh*t, and went up to 50nl. Lost half my br in one hour, and this is at full ring not six max. Since then I've never played outside my roll. You are running good right now, and that's great, but believe me, when the downswing hits, you will be very sorry you are not properly rolled for your stakes.

I jsut mean to take your spot light,

I am just a cocky dink sometimes :P

Grind it out man you can do it. I was a breakeven to losing player for a long time. BR management is your friend.

Originally Posted by bdawg56kg

Jack, read the newbie circle of death thread. I was in your exact spot before. I grinded my roll up to 500 nicely playing 25nl, and thought i was hot sh*t, and went up to 50nl. Lost half my br in one hour, and this is at full ring not six max. Since then I've never played outside my roll. You are running good right now, and that's great, but believe me, when the downswing hits, you will be very sorry you are not properly rolled for your stakes.

I just wanted to see what it was like. I still consider myself to be mostly learning. The way I see it, I can horse around a bit now, I still have to find my place - this doesn't matter much in the long run. I also think I was half-consciously adjusting my play to my tight BR - my VP$IP was 22, down from the normal 30. First time PO ever branded me as Tagg instead of semi-Lagg :P

And now I can't play for a month due to exams. Have been biting my nails all day cuz I want to play. But yeah, I'm in my last year of civil engineer studies, so it would be kinda stupid to not study for my exams lol..

I jsut mean to take your spot light,

I am just a cocky dink sometimes Razz

Grind it out man you can do it. I was a breakeven to losing player for a long time. BR management is your friend.

Heh, there wasn't really any "spotlight" in my post, atleast not intentional lol. I started on $400, went down to $310 - all I caught for 500 hands were big draws that I had to put money on and that never hit, very frustrating. Kinda sweating there, so I took a break, but I was stubbornly sure I could beat it if I could just catch a few solid hands, so I started playing again. Up to $500 three hours later. And then something bad happened.. it's gonna sound real lame but.. my laptop sometimes makes these "random clicks". I put in a steal-raise, then checked something in PO and suddenly I noticed the other guy had pushed and I had called it somehow?! Even though I wasn't even active in the poker window anymore! Then I tilted off another buy-in on frustration and quickly quit.. ending my whole session back where I started at $400 . I was just kinda excited that 50NL turned out to be quite beatable when I made this post.

I hope I can have a $1k day like you after my exams

Originally Posted by jackvance

And then something bad happened.. it's gonna sound real lame but.. my laptop sometimes makes these "random clicks". I put in a steal-raise, then checked something in PO and suddenly I noticed the other guy had pushed and I had called it somehow?!

Yea, $50nl isnt really any different. In fact, at PartyPoker I feel that $50nl is worse than 25nl, the players are more aggressive but at horrible times. However, this hasnt exactly helped me all that much. Its very easy to see how when running well as Muxy must have been its possible to make a lot of money, sometimes though you just run into ridiculous hands and play. I dropped 6 buyins over 6k hands and probably only 1 of those was from bad play, if your BR cant sustain a bad swing like this, then you shouldnt be playing 50nl. If it can, then go for it.

Originally Posted by jackvance

And then something bad happened.. it's gonna sound real lame but.. my laptop sometimes makes these "random clicks". I put in a steal-raise, then checked something in PO and suddenly I noticed the other guy had pushed and I had called it somehow?!

This is usually caused by the touchpad (the square used to control the mouse) picks up movement from your sleeves etc. I would disable the touchpad and use only an external mouse. If the touchpad isn't disabled it works along with your external mouse (read: they both control the mouse) and can cause these phantom clicks when it picks up movement.

Originally Posted by Scrimmage

This is usually caused by the touchpad (the square used to control the mouse) picks up movement from your sleeves etc. I would disable the touchpad and use only an external mouse. If the touchpad isn't disabled it works along with your external mouse (read: they both control the mouse) and can cause these phantom clicks when it picks up movement.

Yeah I always had a hunch it was this, and apart from general annoyance it has already cost me money (not in the least this $50, or $100 if you include the tilt afterwards) but I haven't been able to find how I can disable it. There is no option to disable it, and when I remove the drivers windows XP auto-installs them again upon reboot. Do you know of a way I can get rid of the touchpad so I can solemny use my mouse?

What kind of laptop are you using? Most of HPs I've seen have a toggle just above the touchpad. It might say how in your laptop's manual. If not you could try searching google. You may be able to disable it in the BIOS (usually press del during boot sequence to get into it, see your manual).

Also try disabling the touchpad by:

right click my computer
go to hardware
go to device manager
pointing devices
right click touch pad
select disable

I have a dell, no disable button like HP there. And what you describe above is what I meant earlier, it doesn't have the disable option in 'hardware'. It's probably because I don't have the latest drivers. But I was too lazy to browse dell's crummy site for them so I just disabled 'tapping', that should get rid of the phantom clicks.

btw, "touchpad (the square used to control the mouse)" <= this was kinda funny.. I'm in my last university year of civil engineer computer science so eh.. I'm kinda familiar with computers..