kmind, yeah I know folding pre is wtf, but I keep coming to the same problem... betting flop seems too thin, so if we're checking KQx flop ip with AK, what's our plan for the turn/river? Call both streets? What hands do we beat that bets turn and river? Call turn fold river? Seems like we're throwing money away vs his strong range/ b/f turn? Value is still thin.
So if we're folding to any bet, which seems correct here to me, then I can't help feel we shouldn't have played our hand pre. It's probably flawed thinking, I get that. I don't know what optimal is here.