Yeah, i'd agree with what leon just said. You be a numbers cruncher and still have moves to your game, you know. I'm an odds cruncher kind of guy. Sometimes I raise with rags....but I do it for a reason. I'm not hoping to be called, I think I can steal the blinds. If I'm called and miss the flop, I might bet my rags again if I think they didn't have anything. Being an odds guy doesn't mean you can't make a move without cards.

If being an odds guy means that I fold my AQs to somebody who makes a big pre-flop raise, that doesn't mean I don't have balls, it means I've decided that it's more likely that he has AA/KK/QQ/AK to dominate me than having AJ/AT for me to dominate him. Calling in this situation doesn't make you a ballsy poker player, IMO. It makes you a gambler. If you want to gamble, go play slots. If you want to play poker, play the odds. But playing the other player and what they don't have is PART of playing the odds....you just factor that in. It takes a much better hand to call a raise than it takes to make one.