Big combo draw on turn vs 2 villains - shove? (2NL micro)

I'm raise in CO to try to isolate a weak EP player but get callers. Both of their stats are vanilla and I haven't seen them play enough hands to get any reads. Turn brings a big 15 out combo draw: nut FD, a well hidden OESD, and I still have an A overcard. I don't know what they might have, but I'm thinking either could be drawing or maybe made a small pair on the flop & didn't want to bet.

My question is: after it's checked to me on the turn, do I shove? or just call and hope to make one of my combos on the river.

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NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($2)
BB ($2.02)
UTG ($2)
UTG+1 ($1.03)
UTG+2 ($0.70)
MP1 ($2.05)
Hero ($2.44)
BTN ($1.22)

Dealt to Hero 3 A

fold, fold, UTG+2 calls $0.02, fold, Hero raises to $0.08, BTN calls $0.08, fold, fold, UTG+2 calls $0.06

FLOP ($0.27) 6 T 5

UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

TURN ($0.27) 6 T 5 4

UTG+2 checks, Hero????

why do you think they are drawing/have a pair? There has been no action postflop, which means their range is just their preflop range minus the hands they would have bet. You don't know much about them, but most villains would bet a pair of 10s on the flop (in the case of the button) or on the turn (the UTG+2) neither of them did this so I think this is an unlikely holding. Apart from random slowplayed monsters, their strongest holdings are pocket pairs/weak pairs like K6o or whatever.

I think a bet here is good, but not a shove imo.

A bet folds out random overcards and other hands that missed completely, winning you a fairly decent pot. betting can fold out weak pairs, although this is questionable seeing as it is 2nl, but it will certainly get you value from these pairs when you hit. Betting also gets value from weaker draws which you are already ahead of, like Kxcc or 2 random hearts.

if you shove then you fold out pretty much everything except sets/2 pairs/made straights, and these are the hands you have least equity against. you would be missing a lot of value from their weaker holdings doing this. if they have air then a normal bet on the turn should take it down anyway.

don't shove just bet, they both look weak and probably are goign to c/r so you'll have plenty of outs to catch up vs their one pair hands.

I wouldn't count you're aces because if that hits you're liable to be outkicked.
I doubt that we're looking at a villain with an overpair because most at 2nl aren't going to slowplay two streets like that before they make a stab at it. I'd thow out a bet of about $0.14 to $0.18 and see how they react. I think that sizing will be enticing enough that a weaker FD or some random holding may come along for the ride yet be small enough to get away from if we miss the river and are facing some real aggression.

Originally Posted by Jumble

why do you think they are drawing/have a pair? There has been no action postflop, which means their range is just their preflop range minus the hands they would have bet.

I just meant I'm not putting them on a made straight (87) because that I'm thinking they don't call a PFR w/ that. Ditto w/ a Set because w/ a wet board, I'd expect them to raise on the flop. I meant at worst I was worried I was facing a pair, and at best they were drawing w/ fewer outs that I had.

Originally Posted by Jumble

You don't know much about them, but most villains would bet a pair of 10s on the flop (in the case of the button) or on the turn (the UTG+2) neither of them did this so I think this is an unlikely holding. Apart from random slowplayed monsters, their strongest holdings are pocket pairs/weak pairs like K6o or whatever.

Yes! I think that's what I was saying.

Originally Posted by Jumble

if you shove then you fold out pretty much everything except sets/2 pairs/made straights, and these are the hands you have least equity against. you would be missing a lot of value from their weaker holdings doing this. if they have air then a normal bet on the turn should take it down anyway.

Yeah, I seem to always for get this -- that bets don't fold out hands that are way ahead of me. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Shotglass

I wouldn't count you're aces because if that hits you're liable to be outkicked.

I doubt that we're looking at a villain with an overpair because most at 2nl aren't going to slowplay two streets like that before they make a stab at it. I'd thow out a bet of about $0.14 to $0.18 and see how they react. I think that sizing will be enticing enough that a weaker FD or some random holding may come along for the ride yet be small enough to get away from if we miss the river and are facing some real aggression.

True about the kicker problem. But I certainly have seen plenty of people (at this level) hang on to pairs and chk to the showdown.