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    Question Can we re-raise in this situation ??

    Hi,
    Here is a situation that got us all arguing about last week:

    This is a 'No-Limit' home game.

    Blinds are 50,100.

    'Player A' raises to 400 chips (has pocket aces).
    'Player B' calls the 400 bet made by 'Player A' (has KQ).
    'Player C' the short-stack goes all-in with 410 chips (has pocket nines).

    action gets back to 'Player A' - he now want to re-raise and go all-in, so he can push 'Player B' out of the pot and stay alone with 'Player C'.

    The question is - can 'Player A' go all-in here ???
    He claims he can, because 'Player C' raised him (even though it was just a 10-chip incomplete raise).

    We all said - he can't re-raise, because no-one had raised over him a complete raise.
    He says in 'No-Limit' you can do whatever you want - someone raise you - you can re-raise, no matter how much was raised...

    Who is correct here ???
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    he can't shove
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikes View Post
    he can't shove
    So I guess you're saying he can't raise either ...
    Can you please elaborate a bit more WHY he can't do that ?
    I mean - we all told him he can't, but he said that in casinos and online - in No Limit - he can raise \ shove all-in in that situation, in order to protect himself from Player B...
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    Player A cannot reraise unless Player C's all in raise is equal to or greater than the minimum bet.

    Incomplete bet or raise


    If a player goes all in with a bet or raise rather than a call, another special rule comes into play. There are two options in common use: pot-limit and no-limit games usually use what is called the full bet rule, while fixed-limit and spread-limit games may use either the full bet rule or the half bet rule. The full bet rule states that if the amount of an all-in bet is less than the minimum bet, or if the amount of an all-in raise is less than the full amount of the previous raise, it does not constitute a "real" raise, and therefore does not reopen the betting action. The half bet rule states that if an all-in bet or raise is equal to or larger than half the minimum amount, it does constitute a raise and reopens the action.
    Last edited by OngBonga; 10-08-2012 at 02:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OngBonga View Post
    Player A cannot reraise unless Player C's all in raise is equal to or greater than the minimum bet.
    Thank you very much ...
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    No, in this case. both only could call the bet in fault (10)

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