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nh sir
07-18-2006 05:40 AM
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Comments: Renton's 169 hand SS-NLHE ring strat: PreflopDiscuss: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-39184.htm | |
07-18-2006 07:56 AM
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The bit about implied odds is golden, very nicely explained! | |
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07-18-2006 08:27 AM
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Great Post!!! | |
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07-18-2006 08:29 AM
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How the hell did ya find the time while playing 8 $200NL tables and all the other extra curriculars. Great job. | |
07-18-2006 08:55 AM
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07-18-2006 09:32 AM
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Great article. This is much appreciated for someone making the switch from SnG's to ring. | |
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07-18-2006 09:46 AM
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07-18-2006 10:27 AM
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07-18-2006 10:36 AM
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07-18-2006 10:38 AM
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I must say this is a great post, very informative and nicely written. Renton, you're one whose posts I always look out for so it's nice to get an insight into your playing style. | |
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07-18-2006 10:44 AM
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I'll still be a jackass, don't worry. | |
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07-18-2006 11:10 AM
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Wow! That's all I can say after reading Renton's post and implementing his strategies into my game. I have learned the importance of a unstructured game. I have learned the importance of focusing on the PROCESS and not the RESULT. I have discipline. | |
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07-18-2006 11:22 AM
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07-18-2006 11:31 AM
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07-18-2006 11:50 AM
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I liked the post, it was really well thought out and articulated. the problem is, there are many preflop strategy guides around. they are everywhere, but preflop is such a small portion of a cash game (as opposed to SNG). some postflop strategy, though harder to write coherently, would probably be much more useful. |
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07-18-2006 12:22 PM
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07-18-2006 12:34 PM
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RENTON PAY BACK UR DEBT TO MANNERBOY NOW | |
07-18-2006 12:36 PM
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alright, in all seriousness, I just skimmed through your post. Looks good. Havn't read it in detail though, but I definately plan on doing that when I have some more time. | |
07-18-2006 12:43 PM
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Re: Renton's 169 hand SS-NLHE ring strategy: preflop.Very nice in total. | |
07-18-2006 12:50 PM
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I Lukie | |
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07-18-2006 01:16 PM
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Re: Renton's 169 hand SS-NLHE ring strategy: preflop.
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07-18-2006 01:23 PM
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Fantastic post Renton! | |
07-18-2006 01:24 PM
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07-18-2006 01:25 PM
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SS= small stakes. | |
07-18-2006 01:29 PM
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Ding, the light goes on... thx Trainer - I was sure Renton was a full buy guy... | |
07-18-2006 01:30 PM
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07-18-2006 02:00 PM
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Re: Renton's 169 hand SS-NLHE ring strategy: preflop.
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07-18-2006 02:34 PM
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07-18-2006 02:41 PM
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great choice to stickify. | |
07-18-2006 02:47 PM
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07-18-2006 02:53 PM
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07-18-2006 02:54 PM
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Here's some pp discussion links: | |
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07-18-2006 03:00 PM
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I like that we are starting to get people to write more articles + EV, something FTR desperately needs | |
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07-18-2006 03:02 PM
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speaking of sets, what are everyone's typical set lines, both in and out of position. |
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07-18-2006 03:12 PM
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07-18-2006 03:33 PM
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07-18-2006 04:05 PM
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07-18-2006 04:10 PM
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07-18-2006 04:31 PM
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07-18-2006 04:33 PM
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07-18-2006 04:36 PM
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Comment number 1, I think we have way to low standards for stickying stuff | |
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07-18-2006 04:38 PM
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07-18-2006 04:40 PM
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07-18-2006 04:43 PM
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07-18-2006 04:45 PM
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07-18-2006 04:47 PM
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07-18-2006 04:48 PM
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07-18-2006 04:48 PM
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Re: Renton's 169 hand SS-NLHE ring strategy: preflop.
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07-18-2006 04:51 PM
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07-18-2006 04:57 PM
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07-18-2006 05:03 PM
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07-18-2006 05:22 PM
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07-18-2006 05:31 PM
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07-18-2006 05:39 PM
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07-18-2006 05:45 PM
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07-18-2006 05:46 PM
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07-18-2006 10:28 PM
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07-18-2006 10:53 PM
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07-18-2006 11:18 PM
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07-18-2006 11:20 PM
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After re-reading your post Renton, one thing really strikes me, which is that your raise calling range is really tight (99-JJ & AQs, plus 22-88 if effective stacks are deep) and doesn't change from UTG+1 to the button. (Although in the adapting to specific players section, you expand your range against ultratight players to include suited connectors and against ultraloose players to include unsuited broadways.) But when you're on the button with T9s you're not calling a pre-flop raise from a "standard" player ? Or even with KQs? Does having another caller in front of you change your range at all? | |
07-18-2006 11:24 PM
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07-18-2006 11:25 PM
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07-18-2006 11:38 PM
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07-19-2006 06:35 AM
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07-19-2006 01:33 PM
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Good read. | |
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07-24-2006 09:21 AM
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07-24-2006 10:17 AM
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07-24-2006 11:47 AM
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Since we are still talking Preflop. What is the optimum balance for PF ranges? Is there an idea as to if the table is loose (>30+%/<5%)? What is my goals for PF%/PFraise, and Tight tables (<25%/ >5%)? Or is it a static number say 15/7? Understanding "it depends", and positional dependance, I have been trying to get my numbers as low as possible without giving up oppertunities. In the last 2500 hands I've been close to 17/7, and can probably move these more, one problem is not opening with more raises when folded to me in MP with KQ, KJ, AT. And not raising limpers with low PP 88 and under. | |
07-24-2006 11:57 AM
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everyones different, these are my ranges | |
07-24-2006 11:59 AM
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But you always shoot for half raises PF right? 16/8, 20/10, 24/12??? | |
07-24-2006 12:26 PM
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08-01-2006 11:38 AM
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I've been incorporating Renton's stuff into my game over the last few weeks, with good results. I noticed that the only thing the strat says to ever open limp is the lower PPs 22-88. In a cash game, do you run the risk of those limps being pegged as pairs .... i.e., do you need to also open limp something else in EP/MP just to avoid being pigeonholed on the low pairs? | |
08-01-2006 11:51 AM
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Limp SCs and SGs along with your low pockets and mix things up by raising them occasionally (~20% of the time). | |
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08-01-2006 12:06 PM
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08-01-2006 12:10 PM
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By the way if you are at a superloose table, what do you care if limping only pocket pairs in EP telegraphs your hand? They are going to call down with everything no matter what, remember? | |