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    I played this hand in a tournament on absolute poker. I'm "DENOUEMENT." I'm not sure if i made the correct decision in calling "HITTHATFLUSH"'s all-in raise after the turn card came up. He had been stealing a lot of pots with wild bluffs, occasionally going all-in with crap hands and getting extremely lucky draws to straights and flush. After the flop came down on this particular hand everyone checked to me and I bet with my pair of kings (normally I wouldn't but the players at the table didn't seem to fond of check raising). Then the turn came and HITTHATFLUSH goes all in. I knew he wasn't slowplaying three queens because, well frankly, slowplaying his good hands wasn't his style and he had been pushing all in quite frequently with nothing. I knew he might've been on a flush draw, so I called. Everyone else folds and on the river another heart comes up and he makes his flush. I can't see how I misplayed this hand except for one reason--knowing that he was on a flush draw, and knowing that he had 4X the amount of chips I did and that I'd be knocked out if he hit his flush but he wouldn't be knocked out if he didn't, was I wrong in taking the risk? Was he right to push all-in because of this, and was I wrong to call? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Here it is:

    Seat 1 - HITTHATFLUSH $7190 in chips
    Seat 2 - FURKNEE $1885 in chips
    Seat 3 - STYROFOAM $3490 in chips
    Seat 4 - CRAZYCHEESE $3450 in chips
    Seat 5 - MUFFLERMAN $2910 in chips
    Seat 6 - DENOUEMENT $2470 in chips
    Seat 7 - ZOEYANNE $1440 in chips
    Seat 8 - RAYHAY $2600 in chips
    Seat 9 - YADDY $4135 in chips
    HITTHATFLUSH - Post small blind $40
    FURKNEE - Post big blind $80
    DENOUEMENT - Pocket [Ks,Jd]
    STYROFOAM - Calls $80
    CRAZYCHEESE - Folds
    MUFFLERMAN - Folds
    DENOUEMENT - Calls $80
    ZOEYANNE - Folds (Timeout)
    RAYHAY - Folds
    YADDY - Folds
    HITTHATFLUSH - Calls $40
    FURKNEE - Checks
    *** FLOP [Qh,Kh,Qs] ***
    HITTHATFLUSH - Checks (Timeout)
    FURKNEE - Checks
    STYROFOAM - Checks
    DENOUEMENT - Bets $400
    HITTHATFLUSH - Calls $400 (Timeout)
    FURKNEE - Folds
    STYROFOAM - Calls $400
    *** TURN [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s] ***
    HITTHATFLUSH - All-In $6710 (Timeout)
    STYROFOAM - Folds
    DENOUEMENT - All-In $1990
    HITTHATFLUSH - returned ($4720) : not called
    HITTHATFLUSH - returned ($0) : not called
    *** RIVER [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s,8h] ***
    HITTHATFLUSH - Calls (Timeout)
    DENOUEMENT - Calls
    *** RESULT ***
    Total Pot($5500)
    Board [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s,8h]
    HITTHATFLUSH - Total ($5500) All-In HI$5500)Flush, king high [3h,5h - B:Kh,B:Qh,B:8h,P:5h,P:3h]
    FURKNEE - Folded on the FLOP
    STYROFOAM - Folded on the TURN
    CRAZYCHEESE - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    MUFFLERMAN - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    DENOUEMENT - HI:Two pair, kings and queens [Ks,Jd - P:Ks,B:Kh,B:Qs,B:Qh,P:Jd]
    ZOEYANNE - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    RAYHAY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    YADDY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
  2. #2

    Default Re: correct decision???

    Quote Originally Posted by denouement
    I played this hand in a tournament on Absolute. I'm "DENOUEMENT." I'm not sure if i made the correct decision in calling "HITTHATFLUSH"'s all-in raise after the turn card came up. He had been stealing a lot of pots with wild bluffs, occasionally going all-in with crap hands and getting extremely lucky draws to straights and flush. After the flop came down on this particular hand everyone checked to me and I bet with my pair of kings (normally I wouldn't but the players at the table didn't seem to fond of check raising). Then the turn came and HITTHATFLUSH goes all in. I knew he wasn't slowplaying three queens because, well frankly, slowplaying his good hands wasn't his style and he had been pushing all in quite frequently with nothing. I knew he might've been on a flush draw, so I called. Everyone else folds and on the river another heart comes up and he makes his flush. I can't see how I misplayed this hand except for one reason--knowing that he was on a flush draw, and knowing that he had 4X the amount of chips I did and that I'd be knocked out if he hit his flush but he wouldn't be knocked out if he didn't, was I wrong in taking the risk? Was he right to push all-in because of this, and was I wrong to call? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Here it is:

    Seat 1 - HITTHATFLUSH $7190 in chips
    Seat 2 - FURKNEE $1885 in chips
    Seat 3 - STYROFOAM $3490 in chips
    Seat 4 - CRAZYCHEESE $3450 in chips
    Seat 5 - MUFFLERMAN $2910 in chips
    Seat 6 - DENOUEMENT $2470 in chips
    Seat 7 - ZOEYANNE $1440 in chips
    Seat 8 - RAYHAY $2600 in chips
    Seat 9 - YADDY $4135 in chips
    HITTHATFLUSH - Post small blind $40
    FURKNEE - Post big blind $80
    DENOUEMENT - Pocket [Ks,Jd]
    STYROFOAM - Calls $80
    CRAZYCHEESE - Folds
    MUFFLERMAN - Folds
    DENOUEMENT - Calls $80
    ZOEYANNE - Folds (Timeout)
    RAYHAY - Folds
    YADDY - Folds
    HITTHATFLUSH - Calls $40
    FURKNEE - Checks
    *** FLOP [Qh,Kh,Qs] ***
    HITTHATFLUSH - Checks (Timeout)
    FURKNEE - Checks
    STYROFOAM - Checks
    DENOUEMENT - Bets $400
    HITTHATFLUSH - Calls $400 (Timeout)
    FURKNEE - Folds
    STYROFOAM - Calls $400
    *** TURN [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s] ***
    HITTHATFLUSH - All-In $6710 (Timeout)
    STYROFOAM - Folds
    DENOUEMENT - All-In $1990
    HITTHATFLUSH - returned ($4720) : not called
    HITTHATFLUSH - returned ($0) : not called
    *** RIVER [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s,8h] ***
    HITTHATFLUSH - Calls (Timeout)
    DENOUEMENT - Calls
    *** RESULT ***
    Total Pot($5500)
    Board [Qh,Kh,Qs,5s,8h]
    HITTHATFLUSH - Total ($5500) All-In HI$5500)Flush, king high [3h,5h - B:Kh,B:Qh,B:8h,P:5h,P:3h]
    FURKNEE - Folded on the FLOP
    STYROFOAM - Folded on the TURN
    CRAZYCHEESE - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    MUFFLERMAN - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    DENOUEMENT - HI:Two pair, kings and queens [Ks,Jd - P:Ks,B:Kh,B:Qs,B:Qh,P:Jd]
    ZOEYANNE - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    RAYHAY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    YADDY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
    Assumming you thought you had a good read, and it seems you did, you were a 3:1 favorite at the turn betting into a 1.7:1 pot. Those are great odds with a good payout.
    Pyroxene

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