Quote Originally Posted by littleogre
Glad you guys are taking the time to reply. I do appreciate it. I'm not really talking about getting them to fold a better hand though. Example a co player with a pfr of 13 percent raises. we call in the BB with 88. The flop is AT2. Villain frequent c-bettor and even if he does c-bet we feel we are infront of his c-beting range. Whats the play? C-raise flop or C-call flop?

The c-raise gives us the best chance to take it down on the flop. It also puts the most money in the pot when we are behind. Calling puts less money in but leaves us at the mercy of the villain. Against a person who rarely double barrels i guess it is ok to call then c-fold if he bets the turn. If he checks back the turn reevaluate on the river. Atleast that's how i usually play it in that spot. How would you guys play the same spot.

Situation 2 exactly the same but villain is a frequent double barreler. Aren't we better of c-raising then flating a bet on the flop and turn? it cost about the same but we are getting it in when we are infront of his range.
given the first scenerio you probably just have to c/f. if we c/r we're drawing to 2 outs so we have almost no equity when called, and it is going to be difficult to barrel oop in this spot without much equity when he calls.