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 Originally Posted by Muzzard
Originally Posted by iopq
Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
Originally Posted by iopq
Not against an opponent who calls a 3-bet with the majority of his raising range.
Most opponents aren't calling a 3b with the majority of their raising range though.
Stakes/site dependent
at 2NL yes, at 100NL I hope not
I have a shitty sample, but I have people calling my 3bet with :Kh: :Th:, :Tc: :Ts: in NL25
I'd be shocked if you told me that in my game against an unknown 3-betting QQ is EV-
also someone that's 30/20 wouldn't be calling my 3bet with the majority of their raising range, but if they call with the top QUARTER of their range I' m still ahead
I give up, ur totally missing the fucking point. This is why ppl find you annoying, coz u just argue with respected members such as stacks - you don't actually take on board anything they say.
READ, ABSORB, RESPOND
You starting playing NL about 2months ago, so don't act like you know it all.
THINK ABOUT POSTFLOP EV FOR THE 3RD TIME
Yes, I don't get it, so why aren't you explaining it better to me? I still don't see wtf.
OK, say opponent calls with 88. The flop is K52 rainbow. He checks. I check behind. Turn is a brick. He shoots a 2/3 PSB. I call. He checks river. I check behind. Value extracted.
QQ plays fine post-flop. I also feel I have an edge post-flop. That's probably the best argument is that the deeper we are post-flop the higher my edge is.
Here's a problem though, if i flat pre-flop and I have an overpair, doesn't that mean I should raise the flop? So if I flop an overpair I'm getting the same amount of money in as if I 3-bet and c-bet the flop. Or do I flat the flop too? Since I don't play QQ this way, you tell me what the plan for our hand is.
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