Do you call 13 outs on the flop when he has an overpair?

Im not sure what I did differently penney, other than including JJ-AA rather than singling out a single overpair.

Originally Posted by fatguy'06

my bad, I always forget the little things like whether its the flop or the turn.. (ok maybe its not a little thing)

Either way the principal still holds and with the correct equity (54%) makes for a good call.

"This is a pretty vague example, so lets say you hold: Th5c

The flop is: 8hTc9d"

how do we have 54% against an overpair here