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 Originally Posted by Parasurama
 Originally Posted by oskar
logic?
You think there's a solid reason to play Jx that way?
Yes, because you think there isn't.
Wrong.
How often will the Hero bet the turn here and commit himself? Why would he risk raising out mediocre hands when he can get it in on later streets. By just calling he can get value out of weaker hands, and even just c-bets if he gets double-barrelled.
Shoving is horrible with a J (or any hand for that matter). Even A K I would flat call, because I think there's a good chance I get a free river, and I still get the right pot odds if he moves me in. Even against people I play regularly who know I wouldn't do this, I think it would be a horrible play.
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