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    He gives us little credit, surely B/F will be awfull on such a board especially given the odds I'll have on calling. I checked because he'd often take a stab at the pot on the turn and he'd often give away his hand on such a board with his bet sizing, with his bet sizing I think there is so much shit in his range but he'd still call a shove as he doesn't really like to fold.
    ya its fine then because of the situation

    I think what I was trying to get at is not fold equity, but the fact that his range for betting the turn is weaker than his range for calling the turn, not sure what others think on this.
    editing my response:

    so yes his range for calling is stronger, but this means you should bet in my mind because he is folding stuff that beats you. if he bets his range may be a bit weaker but it still all beats you! so there is a decent piece of FE in there u capture if you bet.
    Last edited by eragotte; 03-21-2010 at 10:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eragotte View Post
    ya its fine then because of the situation



    editing my response:

    so yes his range for calling is stronger, but this means you should bet in my mind because he is folding stuff that beats you. if he bets his range may be a bit weaker but it still all beats you! so there is a decent piece of FE in there u capture if you bet.
    If we assume he never folds better (I think this is a safe assumption given it's 25nl, and his stats are lol) then the only reason we would want FE here is literally to protect our hand. If we want to get it in here, I think a C/R line is better as it allows us to get it in with more equity against his range. (his range is wider to when we C/R here, than if we shove, as there are hands he will bet when checked too but fold if we shove - and we have good equity against all those hands that would do that.)

    With the AK hand, that seems fine, I would assume at this limit people will overvalue hands and not completely understand relative hand strength to not think any A is the nuts here. You need so little equity on the turn here, and you always have equity if you are behind anyway.
  3. #3
    Results for anybody interested:

    Hand 1

    Results:
    Hero had 10, 10 (one pair, tens).
    MP had 4, 4 (three of a kind, fours).
    Outcome: MP won $51.65

    Hand 2

    Results:
    Hero had K, 10 (one pair, sevens).
    BB had Q, Q (full house, Queens over sevens).
    Outcome: BB won $51.41


    Hand 3

    Results:
    Button had Q, J (two pair, Queens and Jacks).
    Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).
    Outcome: Button won $49.50


    Hand 4

    Results:
    Hero had 6, 7 (one pair, Aces).
    BB had 4, 3 (two pair, Aces and fours).
    Outcome: BB won $46.42


    Hand 5

    Results:
    Button had J, J (straight flush, King high).
    Hero had Q, A (flush, Ace high).
    Outcome: Button won $45.85



    Hand 6

    Results:
    SB had A, Q (full house, Aces over Queens).
    Hero had K, A (straight, Ace high).
    Outcome: SB won $50.17


    Hand 7

    Results:
    Hero had 9, 9 (one pair, nines).
    UTG had Q, Q (one pair, Queens).
    Outcome: UTG won $38.55

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