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    ok this was my first day playing in over a month so i was rusty as fuck and ran like dog shit....that being said heres a hand-


    Merge No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) - Merge Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($25)
    BB ($21.37)
    UTG ($8.70)
    MP1 ($24.75)
    MP2 ($35.54)
    Hero (CO) ($35.76)
    Button ($5.61)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J, K
    2 folds, MP2 bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.75

    Flop: ($5.35) Q, 4, K (2 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero checks

    Turn: ($5.35) K (2 players)
    MP2 bets $4, Hero calls $4

    River: ($13.35) Q (2 players)
    MP2 raises to $29.04 (All-In), Hero ?

    Villain- 14/10 over 150...45% ats...80% 3bet fold preflop
    pre- 3betting as a bluff, he folds a lot of pairs (22-99) and a lot of Ace high
    flop- he only has like 2 combos of FD imo so checking back here is fine to get 2 streets out of JJ/TT
    turn- i think raising here is too thin as i likely fold out any worse
    river- wtfffff...can i really give him 1 combo
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    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    2,253,128 games 1.356 secs 1,661,598 games/sec

    Board: Kd Qh 4d Ks Qc
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 39.981% 00.00% 40.00% 0 901196.50 { KcJh }
    Hand 1: 60.019% 20.05% 40.00% 451680 901207.00 { QQ, AKs, AKo }

    bear in mind your calling $29 to win $6.65ish.

    i'd also discount a few king's given how unlikely he'd just ship this river with a K. most players at this level don't think maybe i can fold a chop here. he may not even flat AKo to a 3b oop so in all likelyhood it probably looks more like this

    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    1,639,166 games 1.075 secs 1,524,805 games/sec

    Board: Kd Qh 4d Ks Qc
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 25.022% 00.00% 25.04% 0 410463.50 { KcJh }
    Hand 1: 74.978% 50.00% 25.04% 819567 410507.00 { QQ, AKs }

    ?wut
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    It looks like that one combo is what he's trying to rep.
    His line really looks like QQ but I'd have a REAL difficult time laying down top boat.
    In fact, I couldn't do it. I'd pay him off to see the quads and make sure he wasn't thinking he was value betting AQ or some BS like that.

    Edit: Bikes types a bit quicker than I do and reading his response tells me that this is a HUGE leak that I need to work on.
    Last edited by Shotglass; 05-19-2011 at 09:17 PM.
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    turn- i think raising here is too thin as i likely fold out any worse
    thought about this a bit before i read what you thought, i came to the same conclusion. your never getting called by anything worse. mostly you'll end up vs 44, qq, ak.

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    This is a really tough fold for me, but the more i think about it i honestly cant see him having anything other than QQ. AK is the only other potential hand and it knows its a split at best and that its unlikely he'll fold out another K, which makes it a really stupid spot to shove considering the pot size. QQ wants to get maximum value here.. you might be able to call this vs a horrible fish, but not against this guy, he's tight and positionally aware. His fold to 3bet says the only things he's staying in with here are high pp's and AK.

    calling is going to be +EV if he shows up with AK ~5 out of 6 times.

    AK gets a tone more value out of c/c or a small value bet than it ever gets from a shove.
    Last edited by scott_owen; 05-19-2011 at 10:09 PM.
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    what do you raise turn with for value?
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    vs this guy- KK/QQ/44/KQ

    assuming his continuing range is KK/QQ/AK (doubtful he calls a 3bet with 44/KQ or many (if any) FD's but if he can have worse K's and more FD's in his range then ldo you can widen your value range to include AK and other Kx)
    Last edited by philly and the phanatics; 05-21-2011 at 07:57 PM.

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