Flopped boat counterfeited on the river

An excellent question, to which the honest answer is I'm not sure, so I need to do some thinking. Flat flop raise turn looks good on this board, but I wouldn't barrel that river. Should've raised the turn.

Raise flop, bet/fold turn might also occur to me.

I guess the moral of that story is, your boat looks a lot scarier when you know you've really got it.

Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider

bet/fold turn might also occur to me.

Why would you ever b/f this turn? We lose to one combo.

I'm probably playing this hand the same. I'm only raising this turn if I think villain calls his overpairs, I certainly don't want him to fold. Guess that depends if I've been caught bluffing the turn in recent memory...

Originally Posted by OngBonga

Why would you ever b/f this turn? We lose to one combo.

I'm probably playing this hand the same. I'm only raising this turn if I think villain calls his overpairs, I certainly don't want him to fold. Guess that depends if I've been caught bluffing the turn in recent memory...

I wasn't suggesting folding _this_ hand! I was talking about my bluff line in this spot. I'd consider, after raising the flop with air, betting the turn if checked to, or folding if he bets the turn after calling my flop raise.

Originally Posted by BorisTheSpider

I wasn't suggesting folding _this_ hand! I was talking about my bluff line in this spot.

Oh my mistake, I have a habit of taking comments out of context!

The reason your bluff line is important is because if villain is not giving you bluffs when you raise the flop or turn then raising is bad. If you don't tend to bluff these spots, then I think calling flop and turn > raising, we do not want villain to fold his overpairs when he has 4 outs (both 7s and both his hole cards) and will give us one more street of value.

But if you have a bluffy image at this table, then raising flop and turn must be better than calling.