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the fact that we are not pushing this river after villain bluffed it is BEYOND me.
i said, "no" because calling is wrong, not because IDCY (i didnt see why).
you have him on 4 combos that beat us. you have him on 8 combos that we beat. all of the 8 are calling a shove, but if they dont, who cares? but, i argue there are even more that villains will call with than 8. even at 200NL, some people do stupid shit.
for every ONE time you lose the hand, you win TWICE. and that wont change. if we only call, we still lose one third of the time. if he calls our push we still lose one third of the time.
the hand is over. we are just neglecting to take the rest of villains money 66% of the time we are winning and he will call.
no one can tell me why playing "pot control" on this river is better than shoving over. are we really being this nitty? i'm a nit, and i cant avoid shoving if i check this river and he bets.
its not like we are up against a 10/7 rock. we are up against a maniac....that makes the 6 so much more likely here.
not to mention the metagame possibilities you are setting up for the future.
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