Hand History Question

Can someone point me in the direction to a thread about HH , what programs to use , how to load them so i can post them here. Been playing about a year and a half , and would really like to post HH now that i have a little money in a poker site (and i mean little). A whooping $2.50 on Carbon from a freeroll tournament. Wish i had the B.R. to deposit a nice amount because i'd much rather start at .50/1 instead of micro's but i blew through my savings this past year . Had around 2ok , but was a ... hustling bankroll not a poker i guess you'd say. All gone now due to the wanting of materelistic things. I've been unemployed for quite awhile now too so i'm hurting. I'm a slacker and want to learn as much about this game as i can because i do not want to work a 9 to 5. I play home games at .5/$1 blinds quite a bit and do fairly well. Played B&M limit 3/6 a few times and came out a couple hundred ahead both times but limit bores me.
Also anyone from the Michigan Area know of any good games????

In the next month i'm going to try and deposit a good $250-$300 into a poker site. Which sites have the easiest competition at low-stake S.N.G.'s & Cash Games??? Dont know if i wanna go by that or where i'll get the best Bonus at.

T.I.A. for any helpful comments.....

honestly if you have a limited BR you should play live first as the compitition is much much much MUCH weaker at higher stakes like 4-8 and 5-10. Even 2-4 can be ok but its a donk fest and you have to play very tight.

Im not sure what you HH q is? how to load them? i dont know what you mean, theres a converter but you just copy paste them....


as far as bonus you dont realy have the roll (givin that your broke and dont have time to grind for 10 bucks aday) to really work on a bonus. If i had to though heres your best options.


Poker.com--You get 10% free with epass right away no grinding plus 100% match that clears at a moderate rate.

Redstar- if you play NL go here, 200% bonus and lots of other insentives that give you opportunities to get lucky and win a nice chunk of change (gold cards gold chips races High Hand bonus BBJ ect.

Last and probly least would be poker stars, its a small bonus but doable at the limits youd be rolled to play (.50 1.0)

To really grind bonus and make a decent profit you need to play 2-4 minimum. Dont get me wrong though if you hav money and dont need to live off your winnings grinding bonus at .25 .50 is profatable and in the long run better then no bonus.

You can always go here

www.bonuswhores.com

as its a comprehensiv list of whats offered online

My advice.. Get 500 and play 1-2 live, get lee jones on holdem and play the low limit showdown game. Ypu an win upwards of 6B/hour as the opposition is horriblee making more mistakes then you will find at a playmoney table on line. Win rate = mistakes oppents make, its why people can grind 1K play money to 1 million in a month but cant grind 5K real money to 20K.

So your saying to start i should be studying low limit , and playing low limit live?
I have had good results doing so , the few times i went to the casino. I wanted to move up to 1-2 NL , 100MAX at the casino though. Is the reason to play limit only based on the $500 bankroll or the change of tougher competition if i move to 1-2 NLHE live?
I believe im a decent low stakes NL player , but it does sound right to maybe take advantage of the easy money at low limit casino games to build my BR.

I think ill just deposit minimum amount onto a site and play MTT and SNG. Play money honestly hooked me to the MTT n SNGs , learning the basic ideas of Survival , and agression in later rounds. Im one of those full tilts who just last month got a P.C. and turned my 1k play money into a couple million.

Another question. Should i be focusing on just Cash Game play or just Tournament play because the last part of my last reply i meant i will probally play limit live but will also want to deposit minimum amount to a pokersite and play small stake MTT and SNGs , is it good to be focusing on both being such a amateur?

oh my gosh man so many questions, theres a search feature man. Most of the correct answers are "it depends"

What are you trying to do? Make a living? Make 50 bucks a week? Just become a better player? Learn all poker?

I mean as far as stt or cash or mtt its up to you what do you like to play?

Varience is highest in cash games. Lowest in STT's.

MTTS you have to be great at (not good) to make real money, if your cool with playing 40 hours a week for a 14% ROI or worce then be my guest. Honestly i dont think anyone but the best of the best should play MTTs consistanly oir exclusivly. You have to rely on luck, you have to flip coins. Of cource some players have a decent edge but it will never compare to a cash game or STT just because of the shear number of oppents and hands being dealt. With that said dont, not play them. Shit you might get lucky and win one for a fewK, just dont try to specilize for now. Do that when you have money and can afford not to earn much for 1/2 year to a year. At that point go on an mtt "binge" and see if you can compete.

There is a guy on this board (john somthing) Whos results are SICK. That guy should play MTT's, he has a gift for it. He has also posted losing 25+ in a row. (no cash)

He also plays like 10 ata time.

Ok so i hope thats clear, just play some when you have time, but dont get to into it untill you have the skills time and roll.

STT's if you cant multi table at least 3 and play well forget it. You wont make enough money. Your looking at a 20% roi if your good. With your roll (under 1K i presume) you could play the 20's. If you dont muli your at best making 4 bucks a tour for maby what 40 a day? no not even.....

at least if you can do 3 at a time thats over 100 a day.

ok but live 2-4 , show down donkfest poker. no fold em hold em. If you have a decent game, and read lee jones Winning low limit hold em, you could probly swing 3bb/hour easy. (I would say your gross WR could be upwards of 6bb/h but theres rake and tips and what not) Players just play so bad you have a huge edge even with fundemental knowledge. If you keep at it and play good youll get the money at the end of themonth. Just buckle up, its a bumpy ride.

Live NL--you need a ROLL!!!! big time. Not just a buy ins but money put aside to live. A bad week or 2 in nolimit is a whole new ball park then a bad week in limit. Not to mention the tilt factor is much higher. There WILL be times when you have what amounts to 25% of your roll on the table (because you won it not because your silly enough to buy in for that much) You will get it in as 3- or 5-1 fav and lose it all. Its tough to deal with. Really, im a pro, i play for a living, i do well but not well enoguh, i need to move up. Dont play live NL untill you have alot of Live experience. Play limit poker. Trust me youll still take sick swings, for weeks on end somtimes. But if your rolled properly, they wont break you. When you get to the point that when a donk slow rolls his 2 outer on you fo a pot that was capped on the turn and river, that you can say nice hand, and mean it, really be thankfull that he put that much money in behind. Then CONSIDER No limitpoker, untill then just grind buddy. Read be a sponge, get a note book, write about hands and about your table in it every night, Always have a book to read (ok so you wont always need apoker book because as far as instructionl goes once youve read 4 or 5 youve read them all) But reading helps reset your brain. You haave to let things roll off you. Ive been pro for almost a year now, and i still findmyself making smart ass comments to fish somtimes when i get a sick beat laid on me. Its tough. I saw a total donk in 2 hours hit 6 flushes 6 full boats 2 sets and poket AA twice. He busted all the other fish and was slow rolling every one, asking to see all the hands that werent shown, it was rough.

Sorry im going off on a tangent, im not a writer, sue me lol.

Basicly just study the game and your play, the only reason poker is profitable and not gambling is because pros have an edge. We take risks, not gamble. Your edge is that you can read players, you know what a good hand is. You can fold a hand. You raise when you have the best hand. You dont draw incorrectly to name a few. The more you study the more youll have. Im sure there are well over 20 points in my average 2-6 or 5-10 game that give me an edge over the ther other players.

Also dont think of your chips as money, have money put aside to spend. Your chips are tools. A carpender dosent think about how much each nail costs when building a house. Dont think about the worth of your chips, they are just tools. Make good desisions and review them, write them down it does wonders for the memory. Talk with players who you think are good, LISTEN to them!!!

RESPECT YOUR OPPENTS, THEY PAY YOUR BILLS.

cant stress that enough, there are a few pros at my local card room its a small room with about 40 tables, highest stakes are 10-20L and 2-5NL although 5-10NL can come up as an intrest game.

Whenever those pros berrate a donk and that dong takes his money to another table or leaves (somtimes never to return) its taking money right out of my pocket and his. Hate that.

Soon youll start to see what making money in poker is all about, once you let your ego go, and thats the hardest thing, as players we want recognition that we are good....however it does us know good except at the highest levels. if anything it hurts us. I dont think that needs expination.

Every table in a card room has a certain percent EV The more mistakes being made the higher. One other good player making good decisions at your table cuts your profits. Same with losing an esspessaly bad one. All you can do is sit there and exploit your edge, you wont win every session, as a matter a fact a good player will lose more frequently at a table full of donks then at a table of equally skilled players. However a good player will win MORE at the table of donks, and could only EXPECT to break even in the long run at the latter. Cards happen and it has nothing to do with your EV 5% will happen 5% of the time, deal wit it. Just be happy when you get your money in good, who wins the pot should have no relivance if your properly rolled. A week of losing sessions should not endanger your finatial status in any way. Unless of cource you played like shit and donked off all your chis, in wich case all the suckouts in the world wont save you.

Live and dye by gerring it in good. Its all you can do, if your willing to learn themath, learn tells, and put in the hours. Your edge should allow you to get it in with the best alot more often then not.

sorry, but if OP has to struggle to find $250, he shouldnt be at a casino playing 1/2.

what happens when he gets AA all-in pf, and gets cracked? hes down half, if not all, his roll. then what?

play 10NL online. open up 2 tables, and build your roll. deposit in a site that gives you a decent sign-up bonus, and pick up the double whammy.

you'll last longer.

if you mix in tourneys, play small. build your roll correctly...accounting for variance.

unless you are made of money...which it sounds like you arent.......yet.

once you have $500 online, and make an additional $200, then go to the casino...with your winnings, not your original roll. at least then, you will know if you get cracked, you can build it back with money already in place. geez.

He was implying i play limit. That way i wont go broke having my AA cracking all in pf. I need to start with limit until i have the right bankroll for NL

wrong....they are different games requiring a different knowledge to play profitably.

test: do you play pp's oop when pot is raised and HU?
do you fold the river for one more bet? if not, when do you?
which has more value...TPTK or combo draws?

if you can answer those correctly, then, maybe you will be ok in a limit game.

but, the correct answer, if you play NL better, is to PLAY LOWER...not a different game.

test: do you play pp's oop when pot is raised and HU? I understand pp (pocket pairs) and oop (out of position ) but do not undestand the acyronm HU , i would play PP out of position to one raise to see the flop for set value


you fold the river for one more bet? if not, when do you? If i missed a draw i'd probally fold. But to only one bet in limit i guess it would be harded since your getting great odds. But if my hand hasnt created anything by the river i think i'd still lay it down in limt.



which has more value...TPTK or combo draws? I'd say combo draws...if you mean like an open-ended and flush draw at the same time and maybe even an over....if im in the 40% chance range to win i'd say it has more value than TPTK , is that not true in limit?


Not sure if i answer these correctly but please lemme know. I also enjoy live play more for cash game. But what would my bankroll have to be to join the 1-2 100 max NLHE table at my local casino? Obviously more than if i wanted to play limit. ALl the times playing limit i was profitiable , so i dont see why i can't take a shot going there with a 100 and grind it out a few hours...usually i'd leave with between 60-100 profit for 2 maybe 3 hours of playing sometimes a little longer. First time i had the great idea to play higher stakes Blackjack 25$ a hand and lost all my winnings and initial B.R. that i had brought. Bad idea. lol.

no, you pretty much got it/them.

HU = heads up.

when in a HU pot you need like 5:1 to set hunt in limit...the bet sizes wont allow you to get properly paid off when you hit. besides, if he hits TP + draw, he will suck back out quite often.

the thing to remember about limit is:

you cant bet them out of pots. with 8+ outs, its hard to give incorrect pot odds to draw. and, you have to "protect" your hands more carefully with c/raises and raises (to make those behind you call 2 cold), etc.

seems you spend a lot of money "thinning the field" post-flop just to get it HU on the river so you have a good shot at winning...all the while building the pot for the monster draws...

can be frustrating...which is why you need a handsome roll over there, too. you think variance is bad in NL? try limit on for size.