Chopper's hand
I've just read the first part of this hand. I'll comment on the turn and river later.

Some people are able to limp, even UTG with big pairs if they get the urge. But discounting a trick play preflop for AK/AQ/AJ/KJ/JJ then I do think it's more likely he has Ax/Kx/QT/Jx. I'm just curious at the c/c on this flop.

Wesrman's hand
I think the 2c saved the ace's here. For some reason I'm thinking a tight passive flopped set worried about a straight. A min raise preflop could be overcards or pp and then the bet/call means he liked the flop. The turn is what scared him off. Most likely an Axs/Kxs which paired the 5 though.

Am I totally off the mark with my ranges?