3 J's is definitely in there. but, its not the ONLY hand that is. therefore giving him credit for it, w/o more information, when we beat so much else is pulling the plug too early.

to determine that, you need a specific read. like "slowplays big hands" or "chases flush draws." those types of reads will help you narrow or widen his range...giving you more combinations to value your hand against. if your read on his range and tendencies is accurate enough, it just comes down to math.

i dont have any of those reads here, so i can only go off of how most players would play this hand with a range that makes common sense.

and, i am not great at that. that is why i started this thread. i want experienced players, and noobs to watch this and put in their two cents.

the only way we learn is to put ourselves out there, and get things wrong. oh, and get flamed for it...lol.