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3bet pre for value and isolation of the whale.

As played bet this flop at least pot size, overbetting is fine vs this guy.

Raise turn bigger and check river.

Originally Posted by HoopyDude

3bet pre for value and isolation of the whale.

Originally Posted by vaks

so you described the perfect reasons to be 3betting... but you don't 3b...

After thinking about it I just don't see why a 3bet is value here. An over card is going to come about 60% of the time and this guy is likely to have any broadway. So then I'm in a tricky situation after the flop if I don't hit a set and the over card comes. Being a calling station too, if I cbet the flop and he calls I don't really gain much useful info to narrow down his range so at that stage I'm left with virtually no option but to slow down and hope he checks it out.

So what am I missing?

Originally Posted by PKKFW

After thinking about it I just don't see why a 3bet is value here. An over card is going to come about 60% of the time and this guy is likely to have any broadway. So then I'm in a tricky situation after the flop if I don't hit a set and the over card comes. Being a calling station too, if I cbet the flop and he calls I don't really gain much useful info to narrow down his range so at that stage I'm left with virtually no option but to slow down and hope he checks it out.

So what am I missing?

You have around 60-65% equity vs his pre flop calling range with TT that's what makes it a 3bet for value. Sometimes over cards will come but that's fine as all you need to do is evaluate the board texture and decide whether to bet or check based on his ranges. Also this guy sounds like he's going to call down super wide anyway (i.e. with much worse than top pair) so you won't end up value towning yourself that often.

Basically in this hand we'll have all the edges, card, position, skill and initiative. Winning situation imo.

Originally Posted by HoopyDude

3bet pre for value and isolation of the whale.

As played bet this flop at least pot size, overbetting is fine vs this guy.

Raise turn bigger and check river.

Agree 100%.

Fold to 4bet pre.