Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
But postflop, I do not understand OPs logic in donking at all. Let's assume villain's 3betting range is KK+, AK. Donking this flop seems pretty terrible, as he will fold all worse hands (AK), and call all better hands (KK+). The same goes with check/raising. He will continue with KK+, and will fold out AK, which we beat. However, if we check/call, we allow him to bet both hands that beat us, and hands we beat. And we can easily check/fold Ace or King turns, while also giving him a chance to double barrel with AK on blank turns.
So check/call flop as it stands, check/call turn if no A or K hits? Surely a passive line like that gives up pot control on a possibly marginal hand based on our villain's range? Furthermore, say we check/call the villain bets of 3/4 pot on the flop and on the turn (not unlikely if he held AA/KK or if he was 2 barrelling AK), we'll be pot committed by the river, and will be forced to call villain's shove on the end thanks to the immense pot odds (or at least I can't see how you can fold the river in that spot after calling the majority of your stack in by the turn). Incidentally, this gives the same result as our hero leading on the flop and the turn as shown in the HH. Am I missing something here?