J5s made me tank a bit

Originally Posted by jaytoi

Definitely dont fold. I dont think there are a huge amount of weak or strong aces he's limping on the BTN with here- i think it's much more weighted towards weak BWs and PPs, esp because hes often limping behind hoping for a good implied odds situation. On the river i think he feasibly will feel he can bet like 77+ for value here, hoping to get a w/e meh call with random A hi's . Maybe he has some Ax suited type hands here, but he isn't floating a rainbow flop with them. He'll probably call one street with these pps when you bet less than 1/2 pot with too.

His range for betting the river is pretty much Jx, 66-TT with the occasional 8 (maybe) and JJ.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
28 games 0.005 secs 5,600 games/sec
Board: 8c 8s Jd As 8d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 85.714% 85.71% 00.00% 24 0.00 { Jc5c }
Hand 1: 14.286% 14.29% 00.00% 4 0.00 { JJ-99, 77-66, J8s, 98s, 87s }
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Aces are definitely a part of his range imo

Ok, but which aces does he limp with OTB? and i would say even if there are quite a few aces, it's a pretty easy call as we only need 33 % equity vs a range which definitely contains underpairs .

Originally Posted by deucesomething

Aces are definitely a part of his range imo

This; How much, and how big a part?

Originally Posted by sven00100

This; How much, and how big a part?

Good question, i think some of it may come down to what you've seen him show down with. Keep in mind an 11 percent PFR range is wider than most people think, imo, and Stove's default puts all aces down to AT in it. So i think if he's raising all these aces, if he limps with an ace, it's likely to be a weaker one, and then idk why he'd call flop w/ a weak ace....

If we assume he limps behind weak suited aces and take this line, it's pretty much still an easy call.

Board: 8c 8s Jd As 8d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.174% 52.17% 00.00% 72 0.00 { J5s }
Hand 1: 47.826% 47.83% 00.00% 66 0.00 { JJ-99, 77-66, A8s-A2s, J8s, 98s, 87s }