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  1. #1
    pre is ok but I would make it larger lik $0.12 at least if I decided to play. Checking this flop multiway is pretty bad since you are giving loads of gutters a free chance to catch up + you rate to have the best hand a good % of the time. Check/raising this hand is very bad. When villains min-bet, their range is usually polarized to extremely weak hands and extremely strong hands. By check/raising here, you get all the super weak hands which you crush to fold and all the hands that have you crushed will continue.

    When he comes back over the top which part of that range do you think he has?

    It seems you did not consider his range at all. Practice putting him on a range, it's the only way you will learn.


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  2. #2
    Caddie,

    You're absolutely right I didn't consider his range, maybe you'll be able to point me in the right direction because although I understand putting people on ranges is paramount to being successful in the long run I have had some trouble getting the concept started in my head.

    More specifically I am not sure where to start even thinking about what someone's range might be. My question now (although I'm severely off-topic) is can we make some general assumptions about the ranges of players at 2NL?

    Supposing they are a player that tends to limp in a bunch of hands with the rest of everyone can we make the assumption that they are going to have some sort of hand that at least makes sense, i.e. pocket pairs, connectors, some sort of paint, broadways, etc.? But a PF raise will probably indicate some sort of better hand, bigger PP's, large suited connectors, suited broadways, and so forth (assuming they aren't overly aggressive on every hand)?

    I am under the impression that ranges are a very player specific item, but I feel like there should be some sort of larger range set you can assume as the general case before you pick a subset for that particular player after seeing them play at least a couple orbits.

    I hope that makes sense, I'm just trying to figure out where to start on this.

    Thanks for your patience,
    L
  3. #3
    Hey dude, go download PokerStove. Spoon has some videos on how to use it here.

    It's fine to make general assumptions about a player's range, you have to start somewhere. When you install a HUD (heads-up display) and start gathering stats and notes on players, then it will come a little easier since you'll be able to distinguish the nits from the taggs, the laggs from the maniacs, etc.
    Last edited by spoonitnow; 09-29-2010 at 05:16 PM.

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