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    Default L is for Leak.

    Here you post your leaks. Leaks can range all across the spectrum. From something skill wise like calling the turn too much, folding to too many 3 bets, or not value betting enough. Or external things that affect your poker like tilt control, playing your A game more, or getting motivated. I feel as though these are very important to identify because most likely your poker related leaks can give you insight about yourself. With this gained insight you can learn more about yourself and how you think. It is important because it can make understanding others thinking process much easier if you are able to understand your own. For those looking through and see a leak that they have over come feel free to post your thoughts. I will start.

    I have a tendency to auto pilot when I get tired or bored.

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    It takes me like ten or twenty minutes into each session before I actually start focussing. Usually in that time I've made a stupid call down, which is what causes me to then think, "Shit I should play better". If I could play well from the start, I'm sure each of my sessions would benefit.

    Perhaps going for a walk or doing something set and fixed before each session would work, iunno.
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    - I'z call down fishes bets on turn and river too lightly instead of separating their calling and betting range.
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    -I don't give fish enough credit when the make gay bets
    -I call down too light vs donks for bad reasons
    -I autopilot and assume it's okay and try convincing myself I'm not on tilt
    -been working on picking my spots for barreling lately since my game could use more aggression
    -I sometimes ignore villains range and just mash buttons
    -I don't leave tables when I should, and sometimes get into uneccessary dick waving contests
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    cbetting shiitty flops with air because he might just have dem pocket fo's

    calling river leads with 3rd pair JUST because a flushdraw bricked off

    3betting iso raises with wreckless abandonment

    4betting cocksuckers who 3bet my iso raises

    flatting ridiculous stuff out of the blinds because "it plays GREAT multiway"
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    It takes me like ten or twenty minutes into each session before I actually start focussing. Usually in that time I've made a stupid call down, which is what causes me to then think, "Shit I should play better". If I could play well from the start, I'm sure each of my sessions would benefit.
    That is so me.

    Calling down aggro donks (esp when OOP) too light. Always thinking people who 3bet are doing it "light" and so making 4bet bluffs that just get shoved on.

    Tilting when I'm running good. This results in me calling down too lightly, being WAY too aggressive and starting to get too confident with strong but not nut hands.
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    not folding enough ... I play late nights and should quit when I start to dose off, but don't sometimes ... Calling to many 3 bets with small pocket pairs in EP ... Playing to tricky for 5NL.

    That's a few ... Wrapping up 1st month of dedicated cash game play. Learned alot of leaks!!!
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    This is always changing, but @ the moment:
    • I give snapshot first impressions too much credit. If a guy plays 4 out of the first 10 hands, I assume he's a lagtard.
    • I get into leveling wars too quickly. A guy sits down HU @ a full ring table and raises the first 3 hands. On the next hand, if he raises, I assume he doesn't have a hand and I might be willing to felt A2o if I get an ace because I have to take a stand NOW on the 4th hand.
    • A double edged sword that often helps me, but sometimes hurts me, too: I put my own methodology into villain's thought process and I'll look up villains light because I wouldn't have played that range that beats me that way. Maybe I wouldn't, but would they? Oh crap, he won ... I guess HE would.
    • I don't mark or look through enough hand histories and sometimes DURING sessions I'll look through one only to see my equity and many of those are ones I know I was ahead, but just want to see how ripped off I got.
    • Overestimating implied odds - implied odds are theoretical guesses of how much more money you WILL win if you hit and win. The money you have to call NOW to play is REAL and is 100% lost from your stack every time you call @ that instant and even more so if you don't hit and lose and even more so than that if you hit and lose.
    • I start to get agitated and tilt if I don't start winning money or a big pot within what I consider a REASONABLE time frame. There's an ebb and flow for what I consider reasonable and logical and if that goes against me, I feel a sense of entitlement that needs to be fulfilled. The longer it goes unrequited, the more agitation and tilt that sets in.
    • I don't use PokerStove enough or do fold equity calculations at all.
    - Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    This is always changing, but @ the moment:
    • I give snapshot first impressions too much credit. If a guy plays 4 out of the first 10 hands, I assume he's a lagtard.
    • I get into leveling wars too quickly. A guy sits down HU @ a full ring table and raises the first 3 hands. On the next hand, if he raises, I assume he doesn't have a hand and I might be willing to felt A2o if I get an ace because I have to take a stand NOW on the 4th hand.
    • A double edged sword that often helps me, but sometimes hurts me, too: I put my own methodology into villain's thought process and I'll look up villains light because I wouldn't have played that range that beats me that way. Maybe I wouldn't, but would they? Oh crap, he won ... I guess HE would.
    • I don't mark or look through enough hand histories and sometimes DURING sessions I'll look through one only to see my equity and many of those are ones I know I was ahead, but just want to see how ripped off I got.
    • Overestimating implied odds - implied odds are theoretical guesses of how much more money you WILL win if you hit and win. The money you have to call NOW to play is REAL and is 100% lost from your stack every time you call @ that instant and even more so if you don't hit and lose and even more so than that if you hit and lose.
    • I start to get agitated and tilt if I don't start winning money or a big pot within what I consider a REASONABLE time frame. There's an ebb and flow for what I consider reasonable and logical and if that goes against me, I feel a sense of entitlement that needs to be fulfilled. The longer it goes unrequited, the more agitation and tilt that sets in.
    • I don't use PokerStove enough or do fold equity calculations at all.

    Wow. Am I related to you?? That describes my worst tendancies to a T.

    I will also add that I don't vary my postflop play (especially bet sizing)well enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    This is always changing, but @ the moment:
    • I give snapshot first impressions too much credit. If a guy plays 4 out of the first 10 hands, I assume he's a lagtard.
    • I get into leveling wars too quickly. A guy sits down HU @ a full ring table and raises the first 3 hands. On the next hand, if he raises, I assume he doesn't have a hand and I might be willing to felt A2o if I get an ace because I have to take a stand NOW on the 4th hand.
    • A double edged sword that often helps me, but sometimes hurts me, too: I put my own methodology into villain's thought process and I'll look up villains light because I wouldn't have played that range that beats me that way. Maybe I wouldn't, but would they? Oh crap, he won ... I guess HE would.
    • I don't mark or look through enough hand histories and sometimes DURING sessions I'll look through one only to see my equity and many of those are ones I know I was ahead, but just want to see how ripped off I got.
    • Overestimating implied odds - implied odds are theoretical guesses of how much more money you WILL win if you hit and win. The money you have to call NOW to play is REAL and is 100% lost from your stack every time you call @ that instant and even more so if you don't hit and lose and even more so than that if you hit and lose.
    • I start to get agitated and tilt if I don't start winning money or a big pot within what I consider a REASONABLE time frame. There's an ebb and flow for what I consider reasonable and logical and if that goes against me, I feel a sense of entitlement that needs to be fulfilled. The longer it goes unrequited, the more agitation and tilt that sets in.
    • I don't use PokerStove enough or do fold equity calculations at all.
    wow..basically just summed me up aside from my other leaks.

    I'll be putting alot of thought into this now.
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    uh 3b pots ldo. not getting enough value when i have it, losing too much to get players off hands when i don't got it.

    overall adjustment back to 6max. folding overpair too much, folding to PSB's on the river from fish too much (middle pair wins a lot in these spots), taking my lolpotodds, even if there is another street to play (just because you have fifth pair against a passive fish doesn't mean you're ALWAYS no goot). knowing when to fold was the nuts at 25nl nit ring, and now all it's doing is making my red line plummet.

    giving up when my draws miss too much. i mean i watch fish take the c/c, c/c, c/f line when i have it sooooo often that you'd think that i'd be able to take advantage of it when i have a hand that whiffed.

    playing ridiculously straightforward in multi-way limped pot. not finding enough good spots to stab OOP and just betting out whenever i have it. basically, if i bet in a spot like this, i have TP+ or a good draw, and if i don't i'm likely going for the good old c/f line. massive massive autopilot when i feel that i've "not invested" in a pot.

    is that enough for ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    This is always changing, but @ the moment:
    • I give snapshot first impressions too much credit. If a guy plays 4 out of the first 10 hands, I assume he's a lagtard.
    • I get into leveling wars too quickly. A guy sits down HU @ a full ring table and raises the first 3 hands. On the next hand, if he raises, I assume he doesn't have a hand and I might be willing to felt A2o if I get an ace because I have to take a stand NOW on the 4th hand.
    • A double edged sword that often helps me, but sometimes hurts me, too: I put my own methodology into villain's thought process and I'll look up villains light because I wouldn't have played that range that beats me that way. Maybe I wouldn't, but would they? Oh crap, he won ... I guess HE would.
    • I don't mark or look through enough hand histories and sometimes DURING sessions I'll look through one only to see my equity and many of those are ones I know I was ahead, but just want to see how ripped off I got.
    • Overestimating implied odds - implied odds are theoretical guesses of how much more money you WILL win if you hit and win. The money you have to call NOW to play is REAL and is 100% lost from your stack every time you call @ that instant and even more so if you don't hit and lose and even more so than that if you hit and lose.
    • I start to get agitated and tilt if I don't start winning money or a big pot within what I consider a REASONABLE time frame. There's an ebb and flow for what I consider reasonable and logical and if that goes against me, I feel a sense of entitlement that needs to be fulfilled. The longer it goes unrequited, the more agitation and tilt that sets in.
    • I don't use PokerStove enough or do fold equity calculations at all.
    Lol, me too. You seem to have struck a chord. Most of the time, I use Poker Stove when my AQ gets beaten by A3 where the flop was A high and a 3 hit on the river. I already know I was a big favourite, so using Poker Stove to confirm how ripped off I got is a waste of time. I only just realised this.

    Plus I automatically think that big bets, especially all ins are bluffs. ie If he really just made a flush, why did he just push all of his stack in? Just don't seem to be able to learn with that one.
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    I don't value bet enough.

    I always think villian is at the top of his range.

    I call too many river bets with bottom pair or worse.

    I need to be consistantly aggressive.

    I don't take enough meaningful notes.
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    About to post about this in my Op, but I think its something beginners need to be aware of:

    - I get too carried away trying to level my opponents when they're just playing their cards. Most people just arent trying to play tricky poker.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    I don't play my A game enough. My C game is way too bad and is
    around far too much. Mostly due to Fatigue, tilt and not living
    in the moment:

    -Watching Holdem Manager during my play causes a lot of the tilt and
    keeps me out of the moment.

    -Playing Full Time and mostly at night when I have to get up every
    morning means I sleep only 5-6 hours a night and that also
    contributes to the tilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OP
    cbetting shiitty flops with air because he might just have dem pocket fo's

    calling river leads with 3rd pair JUST because a flushdraw bricked off

    3betting iso raises with wreckless abandonment

    4betting cocksuckers who 3bet my iso raises

    flatting ridiculous stuff out of the blinds because "it plays GREAT multiway"
    + tilt

    + being too many levels a head because OP's leaks should NEVER have gotten to me yet at my stakes
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    These are all really great posts. If you have play problem it's important to figure out how to lose the least amount of money and make the most obviously. Regardless of whether it is a play problem or a life problem. Ultimately you need to be both sound in play and in external factors.

    A lot of the time if you have an external factor it is best to treat poker like a job or like an activity where you are trying to accomplish a goal such as studying or rock climbing. You wouldn't drink on the job, or get wasted while trying to rock climb or study if you wanted to get good results. Poker is really not that much different.

    For those with play skill problems its important to talk to other people with similar problems to discuss how you can combat the problems its best to try and come up with it yourselves because that way you will remember the concept or reasoning better than if you ask XYZ and they just say b/f 220, even if they explain why. It for some reason is just not as memorable as being like blah blah blah and both coming to the conclusion that b/f 220 is the best that you came up with. Obviously you can still ask better players then yourself what they think too.
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    1) still not able to fold good hands when I'm 90% sure i'm beat (bad bad bad)
    2) Getting too fancy at 5NL, trying to bluff ppl who don't know when to fold
    3) limping too much, not aggressive enough
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    - Managing a Laggy image: "I actually hit the board this time and he check raised me!??? Does this muther F**ker really have it or is he playing back at me!??

    - Getting min 3 bet by short stackers and not knowing what to do!
    You wanna die? Run on up on that black Seven forty-five.
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    my biggest leak is not thinking and it's not even close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    my biggest leak is not thinking and it's not even close.
    *sigh* this

    Me and m2m just finished having a discussion in IRC about this and we set up a sweat session for tomorrow sometime. Hopefully I'll learn to stop being such a lazy MOFO.
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    -I get confused about concepts and then my head becomes cloudy and instead of taking time off to think about them I choose to play.
    -I generalize villains way too much.
    -When blind stealing, I still convince myself villain/s could have a hand.
    -I just noticed tonight that I make too many plays based on my stack size. I shoved on an early position minraiser and I told myself "I can do this because of my stack". Which is true sometimes but I need to open my mind more than that.
    -I need to work harder on post flop play. Ill play fit or fold way too often (it is getting better).
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    -Completing too much in the sb
    -Expanding my range after a bad beat
    -Trying to get revenge on the fishy bad beater
    -Playing on an unstable internet connection
    -Pot controlling when I should be value betting
    -Thinking there's no way that guy coulda called 2 pot sized bets with a FD
    -Thinking there's no way that guy could have set mined with a 30 BB stack
    -Not posting hands on FTR often enough
    -Playing when hungry
    -24-tabling while on the phone
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    1) playing when I shouldn't be playing (tired/whatever)
    2) not giving my play full attention = internet/etc
    2a) not thinking/not playing my a-game
    3) calling
    4) turn play in medium sized pots
    5) missing 'thin' value bets that really aren't that thin at all
    6) getting into pots and/or later streets oop vs regs - without a plan
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    -double barreling for the sake of being aggro
    -talking while grinding, especially when making key decisions
    -letting my mood dictate my course of action
    -giving unknowns too much credit
    -not 2-3 barreling enough in squeezed pots when villains range is face up and exploitable

    Now that I have alot to work on, I'll be back here in a few days.
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    nh, zilla, good to see you in the BC

    I have many of the leaks mentioned by Jyms, BJ, and micro. My #1 leak is:

    NOT WORKING ON MY GAME ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE TABLES

    I spend 90% of my time playing poker, not actually reviewing HH's and cataloguing my dumbass mistakes and correcting them. Then I make the same stupid mistakes over and over, and it tilts me.

    The obvious solution would be so simple.

    The other big leak I have that wasn't mentioned above is hard to describe. Here's an example. I pick up JTs against an LP raiser who is 55/35, call in the BB, see a 863 FD and c/c the flop. I catch a T on the turn and cough up tons of chips with a hand that's still 2nd best. Even laggy players, when their betting patterns are strong, usually have it if they're willing to commit 2/3's of their stack (or more).
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    i read too much theory which results in me not playing enough
    [21:38] <dranger> WTF HAPPENED WHEN I WENT TO BOOT CAMP
    [21:40] <kiwiMark> THERE IS A NEW PRESIDENT OF THE UNITES STATES CALLED BARACK OBAMA AND HE'S NOT VERY WHITE
    [21:40] <kiwiMark> THIS IS NOT A LEVEL.
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    1. Not thinking I have leaks
    2. Overconfidence in my abilities (I'm the best 10nl player in the history of 10nl 6-max dammit, why can't they fold to my raises?)
    3. Fancy Play Syndrome
    4. C-bet too much on dangerous boards
    5. Not folding to raises on the flop when I have nothing (see #2)
    6. Forgetting that most calling stations won't fold... ever. No matter how much I raise.
    7. Chasing losses, wanting to make sure I finish the day with a profit
    8. Thinking that the top 7 are my only problems...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    [*]I start to get agitated and tilt if I don't start winning money or a big pot within what I consider a REASONABLE time frame. There's an ebb and flow for what I consider reasonable and logical and if that goes against me, I feel a sense of entitlement that needs to be fulfilled. The longer it goes unrequited, the more agitation and tilt that sets in.
    I can relate to your entire post, but this one in particular jumped off my screen and slapped me in the face. If I don't win a hand within my "reasonable" time frame, regardless of the pot size, I start playing trash hands and tilt like crazy.
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    I wanna stop as soon as I win.......but I can't stop if I am down
    WTF?

    And the usual not Vbetting enough, calling too much, bluffing the stations.
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    -Forgetting that I can't make someone fold
    -Calling OOP with god awful hands (i.e. T3s) because I have "odds"
    -Ignoring my opponents range and focussing solely on my own hand which ends up in calling many value bets on the river (i.e. duhhhh I haz bottom 2...)
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    -FPSing like theres no tomorrow at 25nl.
    -Calling too many bets on the river with weak made hands because "lol pot odds." <- I think doing this seriously cuts into a players winrate at a given stake, I'm going to be working hard to cut this out ASAP.
    -Forgetting that turn raises = the nizzles at micros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    -letting my mood dictate my course of action
    Boom. Most importantly, I'm talking about away from the tables...
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    - Calling 3bets too much.
    - Playing weak/tight postflop.
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    -Limping low pairs.
    -Cbetting 90% of the time
    -Callin donk AI with TPTK/TPGK
    -Not playing draws correctly
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    researching oker theory whilst at the table.

    Reading this thread, whilst at the table.
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    Impatience, which is at the root of various actions that range from merely less than optimal to downright poor. For instance, I'll play hands in situations I normally wouldn't, play more marginal ones, play more out of position, force the action more, bluff more, not try as much to control pot sizes, etc.
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    I make a bet, saying to myself "If he calls I know I am beat" only to ignore that when he calls and I attempt to do the same on the next street. Or even worse call his all in.

    Bluffing at NL2
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmind
    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    -letting my mood dictate my course of action
    Boom. Most importantly, I'm talking about away from the tables...
    yeah, I'm definately speaking of that too. going to have to work on life leaks some moar.
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    1) Playing tired. This is the biggest money loser for me. And it leads to most of my other leaks below.
    2) Playing rushed. Sometimes I end up playing because I have an extra hour on my hands, maybe I'm on a break at school or what not, but knowing that I'm only going to play a short session makes me play too many hands or just plain bad. Also happens when I just finish an assignment or something and I rush too quickly into it.
    3) Missing value bets.
    4) I'm a station.
    5) Forgetting to read my notes before making decisions sometimes.
    6) Not quitting when playing suboptimal.
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    1.) Calling re-raises when we Bet/Fold <boggle>
    2.) Bluffing without a read or solid rationale
    3.) Not optimally exploiting villain 3-bet tendencies
    4.) Not explicitly adjusting my "C-Range" bluff range to villain profiles
    5.) Overconfidence following heaters that were a result of natural variance vs. good play
    6.) Not taking enough notes
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    Playing when hungry.
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    Being too results oriented at the tables and when doing reviews.
    Opening Poker Copilot every 5-10 minutes to see how much I'm up or down for the sesh.
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    7) not playing as well pre-flop as I could, particularly button and big blind.
    8) suited connectors

    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    1) playing when I shouldn't be playing (tired/whatever)
    2) not giving my play full attention = internet/etc
    2a) not thinking/not playing my a-game
    3) calling
    4) turn play in medium sized pots
    5) missing 'thin' value bets that really aren't that thin at all
    6) getting into pots and/or later streets oop vs regs - without a plan
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    Quote Originally Posted by dranger7070
    Being too results oriented at the tables and when doing reviews.
    Opening Poker Copilot every 5-10 minutes to see how much I'm up or down for the sesh.
    From my OP on 5/3/09:

    Quote Originally Posted by dranger7070
    Lol, keep your chin up dude. Rough times like this suck, but just keep putting your money in good, and the profits will follow. Don't worry about one hand, or one session. Think about (always be thinking about) the long run. It will definitely make you a better player. You won't care so much that your BR has stayed the same over the last few thousand hands.

    Another thing: Try not looking at your BR for a whole week. Just get on the tables, when your done, get off them. No checking the cashier/sessions tab in HEM or PT or whatever. Just turn it on when you start, and shut it down when ur done. I guarantee that you will be VERY pleasantly surprised at the end of that week.
    I followed your advice and have remembered it since. Now try following it yourself.
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    I cannot fold when I have a set or better.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    Well played sir, and I will definitely do that. Thank you.
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    calling 3 bets too much b/c I think they are just "playing back at me" after I have raised a bunch of hands preflop. I assume they are taking notice and adjusting.....its 5nl, there isn't much adjusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    I cannot fold when I have a set or better.
    same here, everyones full of shit these days.
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    1. Exploiting a preflop range postflop that is now much narrower.
    2. Not believing donks call with random hands.
    3. Making lol pot odds calls in hands that got check raised on flop (100% monster when villian fires 1/4 pot on turn and river after flop cr @10nl?)
    4. Auto-get-it-in-like-nuts after raising for value on flop.
    5. FPS @ 10nl so bad im confidant halfstacker considered SPR in 3 bet sizing.
  53. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    I cannot fold when I have a set or better.
    Is this a leak??

    When I first started playing I had some seriously weak-tight tendencies, so for me its a constant balancing act between folding when I think I'm beat and not seeing too many monsters under my bed.

    Oh, and my two biggest leaks are definitely:
    1. Tilt in many forms
    2. Not thinking, either clearly or at all
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    i like calling 3bets out of position.
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    MY 3bets are totally positionally unaware, meaning I'm almost always 3betting OOP (from the blinds) and just flatting IP.

    I too, like flatting 3bets, both IP and OOP with shit hands hands like 88-TT, AQ, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB73
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    I cannot fold when I have a set or better.
    Is this a leak??

    When I first started playing I had some seriously weak-tight tendencies, so for me its a constant balancing act between folding when I think I'm beat and not seeing too many monsters under my bed.

    Oh, and my two biggest leaks are definitely:
    1. Tilt in many forms
    2. Not thinking, either clearly or at all
    This isn't really a leak, unless you are calling obvious value bets on the river where someone hit their 4 to a flush or 4 to a straight.

    But in general, in NL, it's +EV to get as much money in the pot as possible every time you hit a set or boat. You will occasionally get felted, but not that often and it will be more than made up by the big pots you win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amir is cool
    i read too much theory which results in me not playing enough
    Lately... probably this ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by amir is cool
    i read too much theory which results in me not playing enough
    Lately... probably this ^^
  59. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyB73
    Quote Originally Posted by Sasquach991
    I cannot fold when I have a set or better.
    ...This isn't really a leak, unless you are calling obvious value bets on the river where someone hit their 4 to a flush or 4 to a straight.
    This.

    I work so hard to get all the money in by the river and the worst possible river card hits and I think "Oh, he's bluffing the str8/flush/etc."

    I cannot un-tilt after getting out full housed.
    "Just cause I'm from the South don't mean I ain't got no book learnin'"

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    ...we've all learned long ago how to share the truth without actually having the truth.
  60. #60
    Think villain is at the top of their range too much/think in terms of worst case scenarios.
  61. #61
    i'm getting killed when i flop 2nd-4th pair. In general i take a bet fold approach.
  62. #62
    Some quick ones off the top of my head:

    1) Folding to BB steals too much
    2) Not paying enough attention at the table .. generally watching TV, chatting, surfing porn, etc while playing.
    3) Always worried about monsters under the bed
  63. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by thedarwinfish
    Some quick ones off the top of my head:

    1) Folding to BB steals too much
    2) Not paying enough attention at the table .. generally watching TV, chatting, surfing porn, etc while playing.
    3) Always worried about monsters under the bed
    how often? calling too much then c/f'ing lots of flops is typically a much bigger leak.
  64. #64
    My leaks feel more general than the "calling from the SB too much" or "check folding whiffed 3bet pots too much" sort of leaks, which seem to be pretty easy to fix anyways, if you're doing it too much, do it less sort of thing. I think maybe these kinds of leaks have a reason behind them which is the real leak, imo.

    - Playing weak/tight/scared because I'm not properly desensitized to the money - yes, even at 25NL.
    - Fear of failure can potentially lead to huge life tilt when on a downswing, even if only over 10kish hands.
    - Lack of confidence in my reads.
    - Difficulty realizing the importance of "the long term", focusing too much on villain's hand instead of his range.

    I'm sure there's plenty more where that came from.
  65. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    how often? calling too much then c/f'ing lots of flops is typically a much bigger leak.
    It's not so much my fold frequency that I'm worried about. It's when I get an aggro opening up on me I need to adjust my range against him. I would never call with T2o just for the sake of not folding a BB. But I think I should be adding some lower SCs and drawing hands to my calling range against such players.

    I have no problem folding a shitty hand in the blinds to a raise, it's when I know that someone has picked up on my having folded to a lot of raises and start picking on that. I need to better adjust.

    Make more sense?
  66. #66
    1.I read the forums a lot but most of the times on useless threads

    2.I dont post my opinion on others HH-fear of being ridiculed

    3.I dont post my own HH - i play way too much and way too little HH review

    4.I focus too much on results
  67. #67
    All the above. cept i do comment on HH's cuz i dont give a shit if im ridiculed lol
  68. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by thedarwinfish
    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    how often? calling too much then c/f'ing lots of flops is typically a much bigger leak.
    It's not so much my fold frequency that I'm worried about. It's when I get an aggro opening up on me I need to adjust my range against him. I would never call with T2o just for the sake of not folding a BB. But I think I should be adding some lower SCs and drawing hands to my calling range against such players.

    I have no problem folding a shitty hand in the blinds to a raise, it's when I know that someone has picked up on my having folded to a lot of raises and start picking on that. I need to better adjust.

    Make more sense?
    yeah, and the type of hands you choose to play and how you play them will depend on villains range and how he plays it.

    take someone who steals 40% and cbets 80% of the time - this is super exploitable. you can call with small sc's etc that may otherwise be bad to play oop vs a more solid opponent, and then just c/r his ass on tons of flops since he won't be able to continue given his super weak range unless he decides to go apeshit and rebluff u in which case..u need to tighten up I guess unless u feel its profitable to start 4bet bluffing flops lol (I think this is okay advice...someone flag me on this if I'm incorrect)
  69. #69
    Cock Waverings
    Being unable to fold AK to 3 bets from mega nits after I open utg.
    Calling turn bets when I know they are going to bet the river and I know I am going to fold the river.
    Raising donk leads with air all the fucking time.
  70. #70
    yeaaa I also wave my dick around when I play as if people can see it!
  71. #71
    I pretend I don't have leaks when I'm running good.
  72. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiMark
    I pretend I don't have leaks when I'm running good.
    oh man thank you for posting this..it's made me realize how much I think like this and it's a huge leak.
  73. #73
    I just spewed off a buyin to a guy who minreraised me preflop 100% then I missed like 3 flops in a row and he donkbet/raised/checkraised me off. The time I take a stand he calls with A high and beats my A high. I had almost no reasoning at the time and felt myself losing focus for a good 10 minutes before. Should have quit a few hands earlier I guess .
    gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

    bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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    not utilising hud stats enough to inform my play at tables (guess this relates to autopilot mode)
    assuming people play like i do
    every other leak mentioned in this thread at different times.
  75. #75
    When I didn't have much time to play throughout a particular week.. I would inevitably spew like crazy when I got a chance to play. I couldn't lay down hands because I had to get it in there and make some money!!.. I attribute this mostly to the feeling that I had to catch-up or something. Obviously sounds v dumb, but happened frequently. It goes along with some of the others' starting sessions with spew, but this was a very particular thing for me.
    So you click their picture and then you get their money?

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