Low Pocket Pair vs. decent sized raise?

I know the main page says to call only small raises of around .50 cents with a low pocket pair such as 2's, 3's, and 4's, but I wanted to get everyone elses oppinion.

I think that this is a major leak in my game, as I will call any raise from any position pre-flop with a pocket pair. The implied odds, with the deception and the power of the hand, are so great that I just have to call. And there's the possibility that I will go on tilt if that three I've been looking for for weeks finally comes and I folded it.

What is everyone oppinion on playing small pocket pairs against a decent raise of 2-3 dollars and up?

I know the main page says to call only small raises of around .50 cents with a low pocket pair such as 2's, 3's, and 4's, but I wanted to get everyone elses oppinion.

I think that this is a major leak in my game, as I will call any raise from any position pre-flop with a pocket pair. The implied odds, with the deception and the power of the hand, are so great that I just have to call. And there's the possibility that I will go on tilt if that three I've been looking for for weeks finally comes and I folded it.

What is everyone oppinion on playing small pocket pairs against a decent raise of 2-3 dollars and up?

I know the main page says to call only small raises of around .50 cents with a low pocket pair such as 2's, 3's, and 4's, but I wanted to get everyone elses oppinion.

I think that this is a major leak in my game, as I will call any raise from any position pre-flop with a pocket pair. The implied odds, with the deception and the power of the hand, are so great that I just have to call. And there's the possibility that I will go on tilt if that three I've been looking for for weeks finally comes and I folded it.

What is everyone oppinion on playing small pocket pairs against a decent raise of 2-3 dollars and up?

I know the main page says to call only small raises of around .50 cents with a low pocket pair such as 2's, 3's, and 4's, but I wanted to get everyone elses oppinion.

I think that this is a major leak in my game, as I will call any raise from any position pre-flop with a pocket pair. The implied odds, with the deception and the power of the hand, are so great that I just have to call. And there's the possibility that I will go on tilt if that three I've been looking for for weeks finally comes and I folded it.

What is everyone oppinion on playing small pocket pairs against a decent raise of 2-3 dollars and up?

I know the main page says to call only small raises of around .50 cents with a low pocket pair such as 2's, 3's, and 4's, but I wanted to get everyone elses oppinion.

I think that this is a major leak in my game, as I will call any raise from any position pre-flop with a pocket pair. The implied odds, with the deception and the power of the hand, are so great that I just have to call. And there's the possibility that I will go on tilt if that three I've been looking for for weeks finally comes and I folded it.

What is everyone oppinion on playing small pocket pairs against a decent raise of 2-3 dollars and up?

I know the main page says to call only small raises of around .50 cents with a low pocket pair such as 2's, 3's, and 4's, but I wanted to get everyone elses oppinion.

I think that this is a major leak in my game, as I will call any raise from any position pre-flop with a pocket pair. The implied odds, with the deception and the power of the hand, are so great that I just have to call. And there's the possibility that I will go on tilt if that three I've been looking for for weeks finally comes and I folded it.

What is everyone oppinion on playing small pocket pairs against a decent raise of 2-3 dollars and up?

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yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

Originally Posted by mike4066

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Not a leak at all. Read the other thread.

Originally Posted by mike4066

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

lol, I once took down pocket rockets with a set of ducks...

Originally Posted by mike4066

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Not a leak at all. Read the other thread.

Originally Posted by mike4066

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

lol, I once took down pocket rockets with a set of ducks...

Originally Posted by mike4066

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Not a leak at all. Read the other thread.

Originally Posted by mike4066

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

lol, I once took down pocket rockets with a set of ducks...

Originally Posted by mike4066

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Not a leak at all. Read the other thread.

Originally Posted by mike4066

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

lol, I once took down pocket rockets with a set of ducks...

Originally Posted by mike4066

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Not a leak at all. Read the other thread.

Originally Posted by mike4066

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

lol, I once took down pocket rockets with a set of ducks...

Originally Posted by mike4066

yep, i know the feeling. I almost have to see the flop with small pocket pairs.

Of course there are exceptions. I'll drop to large pre-flop raises ( 1 bet over $2) i would call a raise of $.50 to make it $1 to go, and up to a $1 bet after that. (bit of a leak here I know but thats me)

or even a small raise from a rock.

Not a leak at all. Read the other thread.

Originally Posted by mike4066

Nothing makes me laugh more than taking down pair'd up big slick with a set of 3's. (ok its more of a laugh to relieve the nervous tension from playing a hand like that)


Hey, first post

I've been reading the info here for a few months and following hte action on the fourms. Just haven't had any decent input yet

lol, I once took down pocket rockets with a set of ducks...

Originally Posted by Fnord

lol, I once took down pocket rockets with a set of ducks...

Damn, Nice Job. How long you been playing again?

sets are the most profitable hands in NL holdem call those raises if you have implied odds!

Fold preflop.

Cold calling is bad.

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Fold preflop.

Cold calling is bad.

Cold Calling in NL=deceptive

Deceptive=good

Good=money

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Fold preflop.

Cold calling is bad.

Cold Calling in NL=deceptive

Deceptive=good

Good=money

pwnt...


BTW, when was the last time you looked at the date on this thread?


(hehehe, everyday I get someone new. This is pretty fun)

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Fold preflop.

Cold calling is bad.

Cold Calling in NL=deceptive

Deceptive=good

Good=money

pwnt...


I like the way you work it

BTW, when was the last time you looked at the date on this thread?

stick a fork in me Im done

Originally Posted by ilikeaces86

stick a fork in me Im done

Hehe, I had you for almost 30 mins of your time though.

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...random.

...random.

Nice post, 'rilla

-Chris

Originally Posted by Sykedupp

...random.

Nice post, 'rilla

-Chris

HEY!!! I brought this post back from the dead....i can do anything I want to with it !!!!!!

Nice hand history but it doesn't illustrate the point. Above, all the $ went in preflop and opponent had by far the better hand.

I like to call any raise up to 4-5xs BB with any pocket pair preflop.

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Originally Posted by Sykedupp

...random.

Nice post, 'rilla

-Chris

HEY!!! I brought this post back from the dead....i can do anything I want to with it !!!!!!

Who said I was dissing you? Maybe 'rilla is very godly, and being compared to him should be such a compliment, much like being compared to god! Ever think of that? Huh? Huh?

(And the post whoring continues )

BTW, 'rilla + god = ...

-Chris

Rilla....will never be a god. Only a demi-God with a +2 magic hammer.

Here is an example of how much implied odds a low pocket pair has.

***** Hand History for Game 1592513765 *****
$200 NL Hold'em - Monday, February 14, 22:11:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 25018 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: acesup86 ( $1589.5 )
Seat 10: bartattack ( $210 )
Seat 8: janss42 ( $594.3 )
Seat 1: biggaymike8 ( $200 )
Seat 5: frtrain ( $518.8 )
Seat 4: jgotti ( $150.1 )
Seat 6: KuruptBanker ( $269 )
Seat 2: ninball009 ( $132.2 )
Seat 7: DIZZY11 ( $196 )
Seat 9: ascott ( $200 )
KuruptBanker posts small blind [$2].
DIZZY11 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to acesup86 [ 2c 2d ]
acesup86: but I wanted to run with you
acesup86: 1010
janss42: was 10 on board?
janss42 raises [$15].
bartattack folds.
biggaymike8 folds.
ninball009 folds.
acesup86 calls [$15].
acesup86: of course
jgotti folds.
frtrain calls [$15].
KuruptBanker folds.
DIZZY11 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 2h, 5d ]
janss42 bets [$50].
acesup86 calls [$50].
frtrain folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
janss42 bets [$100].
acesup86 raises [$200].
janss42 calls [$100].
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
janss42 is all-In.
acesup86 calls [$329.3].
janss42 shows [ Qd, As ] a pair of aces.
acesup86 shows [ 2c, 2d ] three of a kind, twos.
acesup86 wins $1206.6 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos.

Now tell me was it worth calling 15 dollars preflop to win that ??????

Does my hammer have a cool name?

Poscount++

-'rilla

you post whoring bastard

Here is an example of how much implied odds a low pocket pair has.

***** Hand History for Game 1592513765 *****
$200 NL Hold'em - Monday, February 14, 22:11:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 25018 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: acesup86 ( $1589.5 )
Seat 10: bartattack ( $210 )
Seat 8: janss42 ( $594.3 )
Seat 1: biggaymike8 ( $200 )
Seat 5: frtrain ( $518.8 )
Seat 4: jgotti ( $150.1 )
Seat 6: KuruptBanker ( $269 )
Seat 2: ninball009 ( $132.2 )
Seat 7: DIZZY11 ( $196 )
Seat 9: ascott ( $200 )
KuruptBanker posts small blind [$2].
DIZZY11 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to acesup86 [ 2c 2d ]
acesup86: but I wanted to run with you
acesup86: 1010
janss42: was 10 on board?
janss42 raises [$15].
bartattack folds.
biggaymike8 folds.
ninball009 folds.
acesup86 calls [$15].
acesup86: of course
jgotti folds.
frtrain calls [$15].
KuruptBanker folds.
DIZZY11 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 2h, 5d ]
janss42 bets [$50].
acesup86 calls [$50].
frtrain folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
janss42 bets [$100].
acesup86 raises [$200].
janss42 calls [$100].
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
janss42 is all-In.
acesup86 calls [$329.3].
janss42 shows [ Qd, As ] a pair of aces.
acesup86 shows [ 2c, 2d ] three of a kind, twos.
acesup86 wins $1206.6 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos.

Now tell me was it worth calling 15 dollars preflop to win that ??????

Doesn't it feel so good?

-'rilla

yes yes it does

Here is an example of how much implied odds a low pocket pair has.

***** Hand History for Game 1592513765 *****
$200 NL Hold'em - Monday, February 14, 22:11:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 25018 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: acesup86 ( $1589.5 )
Seat 10: bartattack ( $210 )
Seat 8: janss42 ( $594.3 )
Seat 1: biggaymike8 ( $200 )
Seat 5: frtrain ( $518.8 )
Seat 4: jgotti ( $150.1 )
Seat 6: KuruptBanker ( $269 )
Seat 2: ninball009 ( $132.2 )
Seat 7: DIZZY11 ( $196 )
Seat 9: ascott ( $200 )
KuruptBanker posts small blind [$2].
DIZZY11 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to acesup86 [ 2c 2d ]
acesup86: but I wanted to run with you
acesup86: 1010
janss42: was 10 on board?
janss42 raises [$15].
bartattack folds.
biggaymike8 folds.
ninball009 folds.
acesup86 calls [$15].
acesup86: of course
jgotti folds.
frtrain calls [$15].
KuruptBanker folds.
DIZZY11 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, 2h, 5d ]
janss42 bets [$50].
acesup86 calls [$50].
frtrain folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kh ]
janss42 bets [$100].
acesup86 raises [$200].
janss42 calls [$100].
** Dealing River ** [ 8c ]
janss42 is all-In.
acesup86 calls [$329.3].
janss42 shows [ Qd, As ] a pair of aces.
acesup86 shows [ 2c, 2d ] three of a kind, twos.
acesup86 wins $1206.6 from the main pot with three of a kind, twos.

Now tell me was it worth calling 15 dollars preflop to win that ??????

Or occasionally you might run into some weirdo shit like this:

***** Hand History for Game 1600738969 *****
$50 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, February 16, 16:50:16 EDT 2005
Table Necklace (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: stressball10 ( $74.95 )
Seat 3: YOKE78 ( $98.25 )
Seat 4: pgh28 ( $64.15 )
Seat 5: pwndURface ( $33 )
Seat 6: mtg1227 ( $31.7 )
Seat 7: knullrufs ( $102.92 )
Seat 8: reb_poker ( $30.45 )
Seat 9: abliviax ( $44.45 )
Seat 10: G8RBLOOD ( $107.63 )
Seat 2: deizelnuts ( $50 )
pgh28 posts small blind [$0.5].
pwndURface posts big blind [$1].
deizelnuts posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stressball10 [ 6h 6s ]
mtg1227 folds.
knullrufs folds.
reb_poker folds.
abliviax raises [$4].
G8RBLOOD folds.
stressball10 calls [$4].
deizelnuts folds.
YOKE78 calls [$4].
pgh28 calls [$3.5].
pwndURface calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, 2h, 9s ]
pgh28 checks.
pwndURface checks.
abliviax checks.
stressball10 checks.
YOKE78 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
pgh28 checks.
pwndURface checks.
abliviax checks.
stressball10 bets [$15].
YOKE78 folds.
pgh28 folds.
pwndURface folds.
abliviax folds.
stressball10 does not show cards.
stressball10 wins $34.95

Fold the Flop, on both.