The problem for me is this: I've learned to think in these terms: If your draw is 1 in 3 to come, you need 3 for 1. (a final pot three times as large as the price). For a 1/4 you need 4 for 1. For 1 in x you need x for every 1. See the easy pattern? Unfortunately, this makes calculations a bitch.

Okay, I will *attempt* to use the easier ratio / horsetrack method.