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 Originally Posted by Fnord
Originally Posted by finky
If your going to raise the turn to rep a set then you have to be prepaired to push any river, Its a risky move, not to be overdone, and you need to know the villian can fold. This is the line where you are most likley to get a better hand to fold, however as you could do this with any 2 its getting a little off topic.
Ummm..... no... I' m raising the turn because I don't want to put any more money into this pot. If he has a clue, then he's pricing some amount of a river bet or outs into his call. We have a hand here we'd really like to showdown against our opponent's range.
That being said, a river bluff is certainly called for at times, but pricing it into our turn raise is just spewing. The fun part of playing back at thinking or tight players is that you can test them for their stack without sticking it all in.
Say we have 88, board reads 2367r. We have called the flop bet and raised the turn which was called. How do you feel about a showdown now? In this situation I'm thinking they must have a higher PP most of the time, either we get them to fold it on the river or we shouldent have raised the turn in the first place. Just because our raise may have been less than the villians river bet, It may not have and we may have forced ourselves to play a bigger pot than nessecary. Also it forces the villian to have some kind of hand and stops him bluffing more chips at us.
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