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  1. #1
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    Default mistakes galore hand vs fish: time to fold?

    $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
    PokerStars
    9 Players
    Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($2.14)
    kicKAss (UTG+1) ($10.14)
    MP1 ($9.20)
    MP2 ($4.97)
    MP3 ($5.32)
    CO ($5.32)
    BTN ($2.03)
    SB ($5.27)
    BB ($2.07)

    Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) kicKAss is UTG+1
    1 fold, kicKAss raises to $0.15, MP1 calls $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15, 5 folds

    Flop: ($0.52, 3 players)
    kicKAss checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks

    Turn: ($0.52, 3 players)
    kicKAss bets $0.25, MP1 raises to $0.50, MP2 folds, kicKAss calls $0.25

    River: ($1.52, 2 players)
    kicKAss checks, MP1 bets $0.80, $0.8 to kicKAss ($9.49)?

    villains are 31/5 large sample 26/18 small sample respectively
    honestly just giving up on flop as villains continue to often and Im oop. I dont think I will be able to win the hand often.
    turn I didnt really think about what I was doing when I bet. knowing villains rarely have a K as I think they bet flop when I check, they could definatly have diamonds or gutshots, I think I shouldve bet a little more. slowplayed 9s are definatly a possibility. I called the raise without thinking again, sad face.
    river thinking about his value range I'm splitting at best, as villain wasnt at all aggro I thought a fold was the right play. stop making my earlier mistakes worse, correct play given the info?
    writing this down; it seems trivial, oh well flame on
  2. #2
    Turn could be a tiny bit bigger but it's not a huge issue. I'm not going to fold to a mini-raise on the turn. He can probably do this with any ace, a 9 obviously, and maybe something dumb from time to time. Also, he has a full stack and there are still aces left in the deck. On the river it's tough when he is a passive player. I can fold to even a 75% bet here fairly easy. Against a half pot I probably just call to chop a lot and lose sometimes to a 9. Fold certainly isn't terrible though.
  3. #3
    What was your thought process on not c-betting that flop besides "just giving up"?
  4. #4
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    Seniors please advice on this flop. Its a very common situation for me as well.

    I usually C-bet flop .30 cents. If there is a raise then fold. If flatted, then bet the turn and river as well unless raised. I have lost a lot of money in such spots.

    What is the best way to play OOP on a missed flop?
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    xander .....click on the link in blackrain79's signature in the post above.
  6. #6
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    okay first im not assuming Im right here. I'm giving up on the flop as I feel my opponents wide ranges will continue correctly only things worse than what I have without draws is gonna fold and the draws are doing well vs my 1 over and 1 diamond, I dont think they fold a pair on this board vs 2 loose fish oop i feel i'm beat too often. If the flop gets chked and i hit the turn with either of my cards I think I have the best hand often enough to make a few small bets.

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