To a500lbgorilla... I know you are an old timer on this board, but this is the beginners circle. Just because you know what's right and wrong, doesn't mean everybody else does. Neither of your posts added any use to this thread, other than trying to make the original poster look stupid. I'm not having a go, just reminding you that this is the beginners circle where people are meant to be allowed to ask "stupid questions" without being made a fool of, in the hope that experienced players will guide us newbies in the right direction.