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 Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
 Originally Posted by montimus
With pots that size, you want to get all your money in there with the best hand...if I get sucked out by someone willing to risk his entire stack on the draw, then fine
If I' m in that position, I' m making them pay their entire stack(s) to see that next diamond.
The problem is that with a large pot, a push is actually callable by the odds. A flush is better than 33% to come by the river. If the pot is 86% or more of the size of the bet you make on the flop AND they are guaranteed not to have to pay more on the turn, then it's a mistake to fold a flush draw here. If someone else makes the mistake of calling before a flush draw, then it doesn't matter how big your bet - even without the pot they are getting better than their odds just calling again yours and the other caller's bet. Bet the flop, but don't bet so much that you can't bet again to take their odds away on the turn.
- Jeffrey
If you're going to bet enough to give them bad odds to call, as you earlier suggested, you may as well force them to either commit their chips to the draw or fold.
To me it's a matter of getting your chips in when you're sure you've the best hand. The opponent only has really good odds to draw here if he's got a pair in addition to the draw. Regardless of whether the opponent has the odds or not, you're putting him to the test by making him decide if he's gonna play for all his chip on a DRAW. Yeah, he's got a 1 in 3 chance of catching it, but he's going to have to risk all his chips on that chance.
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