Quote Originally Posted by montimus
Someone likely has an ace and there's a good chance you've got them outkicked.
By my calculations with TPTK you have them outkicked every time unless its a spilt. That said, i dont agree with a push. i think you throw out a pot sized bet, and look for a raise to identify if anyone has you beat right now. You guys are worried so much abut the flush you havent even thought about the fact you only have TPTK. A pot sized bet is enough to kick draws in the ass and look for strength from others. A made hand wont just call here, so if they raise you have to use your reads to see if they got you beat or not.