Quote Originally Posted by LeFou
Since I'm talking about strict pot odds, it is accurate. What you're describing are effective odds. These take into account the possibility that you miss on the turn and have to call another bet (presumably > 1/6 the pot) to see the river.

But just as pot odds don't tell the whole story, neither do effective odds. If opp makes the flush on the turn, and Hero mistakenly bets into himher, then opp will win more than what is presently (3 to 1) in the pot. Those, of course, are the implied odds.

So, in a sense, the weakening from effective odds is offset by the strengthening from implied odds.

The overall point is simply that taking away the "strict" pot odds in a decisive manner is the proper way to protect a made hand.
I thought that pot odds was synonymous with effective odds. I guess you are saying that pot odds lies somewhere in between effective odds and implied odds (at least in this case).

While I can't say that this completely clears things up for me, I appreciate you explaining that there is a difference. I'm going to go take a look at TOP and see if I can clear it up a little bit more.

Of course, I completely agree with the point about protecting a made hand.