cheers guys

really helpful - now im a bit clearer how to translate percentages into odds

id been thinking it was like a 1000/1 shot for him to get runner runner - think id been adding odds together for the 4th then the 5th instead of just looking at total out combinations on the flop

ive been thinking i should start using one of these poker mate things but im on a mac - any suggestions - are they really what everyone is using online now ?

cheers scrawnybob