NLHE Foundations Course #05: Pre-Flop Ranges (Part 2)

Originally Posted by MarinaD

I'm not sure if understood the homework, so i hope it's ok.
I'm going to separate the big blind and the small blind since people tend to use different strategies (i do!). In big blind the 3betting ranges tend to be polarized, and in the small blind they tend to be a bit merged since calling would encourage the big blind to squeeze a lot. Although this villain is not folding a lot to 4bet, which may indicate that he is merging a lot.


This villain is a 16/11, Total 3bet of 5, Fold to 4bet: 44
resteal from sb: 7 fold sb to steal: 84
resteal from bb vs co: 8 fold bb vs co steal: 84
resteal from bb vs bu: 16 fold bb vs bu steal: 74
resteal from bb vs sb: 8 fold bb vs sb steal: 78



3betting hands that went to showdown:

AA: BB vs LP, LP vs MP, BU vs CO, BB vs SB, MP vs EP
KK: LP vs MP, BB vs MP
QQ: LP vs MP, SB vs EP
JJ: MP vs EP, SB vs LP, SB vs MP, BU vs CO
TT: LP vs EP, BU vs CO, BB vs LP, MP vs MP
99: MP vs EP
88: BB vs SB, BB vs LP
AK: BB vs EP, SB vs LP, LP vs EP, EP vs EP
AQ: SB vs LP, SB vs EP, BB vs LP
AJ: SB vs MP
AT: SB vs MP, SB vs LP
A9s: SB vs LP, LP vs MP
A6s: SB vs LP
A3s: SB vs MP
KQ: SB vs EP, SB vs MP
QJ: SB vs MP, SB vs LP
JTo: BB vs LP

1. MP vs EP: JJ+ (99+ vs fishes)
2. LP vs EP: TT+, AK
3. SB vs EP: TT+, AQ+, KQ
4. BB vs EP: QQ+, AK
5. LP vs MP: TT+, A9s-ATs, AK
6. SB vs MP: TT+, A2s+, AQ+, KQ, QJ
7. BB vs MP: QQ+, AQ+, KQ
8. SB vs LP: 88+, A2s+, KJs+, QJs-98s, ATo+, KJo+, QJo-JTo
9. BB vs LP: 88+, AQs, A5s-A2s, AKo, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo
10. BB vs SB: 88+, AQs+, A5s-A2s, QTs, AKo, KTo, QTo

Sorry for my english. I struggled a lot writing this, and struggled with the ranges of course hahaha.


I think that knowing villain's 3betting ranges is crucial for choosing a strategy to defend ourselves. To know when to call 3bets and when to 4bet. Baluga talks about this in Easy Game.

Hey,

So I probably need at least another 20k hands or even more until I have an opponent with enough hands that went to showdown when he 3Bets.


Therefore I am just here to ask (stupid) questions^^:

2.) LP vs EP: TT+, AK which is about 3%
3.) SB vs EP: TT+, AQ+, KQ which is about 4%

I am not sure but if 3Bets someone in EP with KQ in the SB, shouldn't he do it also in LP?
Because if Villain calls, hero is at least in postion.

3.) SB vs EP: TT+, AQ+, KQ
4.) BB vs EP: QQ+, AK

6.) SB vs MP: TT+, A2s+, AQ+, KQ, QJ
7.) BB vs MP: QQ+, AQ+, KQ

8.) SB vs LP: 88+, A2s+, KJs+, QJs-98s, ATo+, KJo+, QJo-JTo
9.) BB vs LP: 88+, AQs, A5s-A2s, AKo, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo

I don't understand why there is so a massive drop in the range. I mean in both SB and BB we are OOP on the flop. However in sb we are have one opponent on our left who is still in the Hand. So in the BB we already know what the SB did.

So why is the range of the 3bet in the BB smaller than in the SB? Because I would assume that it the 3Bet range should be greater in the BB than in the SB.

Originally Posted by Pursu7it

Hey,

So I probably need at least another 20k hands or even more until I have an opponent with enough hands that went to showdown when he 3Bets.


Therefore I am just here to ask (stupid) questions^^:

2.) LP vs EP: TT+, AK which is about 3%
3.) SB vs EP: TT+, AQ+, KQ which is about 4%

I am not sure but if 3Bets someone in EP with KQ in the SB, shouldn't he do it also in LP?
Because if Villain calls, hero is at least in postion.

3.) SB vs EP: TT+, AQ+, KQ
4.) BB vs EP: QQ+, AK

6.) SB vs MP: TT+, A2s+, AQ+, KQ, QJ
7.) BB vs MP: QQ+, AQ+, KQ

8.) SB vs LP: 88+, A2s+, KJs+, QJs-98s, ATo+, KJo+, QJo-JTo
9.) BB vs LP: 88+, AQs, A5s-A2s, AKo, ATo, KTo, QTo, JTo

I don't understand why there is so a massive drop in the range. I mean in both SB and BB we are OOP on the flop. However in sb we are have one opponent on our left who is still in the Hand. So in the BB we already know what the SB did.

So why is the range of the 3bet in the BB smaller than in the SB? Because I would assume that it the 3Bet range should be greater in the BB than in the SB.

Your first question is the most difficult to answer. First of all, i don't think this are fixed ranges. I think they only show some tendencies.
When 3betting KQ vs EP, you are doing it as a bluff and not for value. If you call on the SB with KQ, you will be oop with a dominated hand, but if you call on the BU at least you have position over him. I'm not saying you should do it....but is arguable.


To your second one: BB and SB play different ways.
When you are on the SB, you have to be very careful when calling, because the BB can squeeze the hell out of you. So you tend to defend your SB by 3betting more than calling.
On the BB, you are the last one to act and you have a better price to call. For example: BU opens to 2.5bb. Since you already posted your big blind, you only have to put another 1.5bb. You need to pay 1.5bb to win a 5.5bb pot, so you have to win 27% to break even. So when calling on this situation, you only have to win a few times to show profit.

I hope i made myself clear. I suck in english hahaha.