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    OK, so not exactly 2nd income territory, but acheived my 2 goals for last month:
    1. Play enough to feel comfy with the move to 4NL
    2. Play enough to redeem my $25 "O Pleez Come Back To Us" bonus @ Party


    final total for October = +$28.35.
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    He just wins, mmkay?
    You should learn to bluff less and value bet moar.

    Also, probably stop calling flops/turns just to fold turns/rivers.

    :3

    Edit: For myself, deposited $25 on Carbon idk, 2 weeks ago. Playin 4nl 6m with no HUD 2-4 tabling. Net profit is liekkkk $80? Something like that idk.
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    meh shit month given up on trying to break into 10s till I sort out this shit
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    didn't tilt once all month, eh?
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    um... AWESOME first 1/4 month, then that down slump was only liek a couple days. Think I dropped 5.5 BI's in 2 sessions lol. I dunno why my game is so swingy.

    Now my work situation has changed and I don't think I'll have time to play anymore. I'd hoped to have my BR at 300 and be at 10NL by 2012, but now I just can't get hands in. When I get home from work I practically fall asleep at the computer lol

    If I tried real hard I might get 3-5k hands in this month, which sucks ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    didn't tilt once all month, eh?
    playing B and C game is tilting by definition
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    Quote Originally Posted by chatzilla View Post
    playing B and C game is tilting by definition
    sure but this is the internet where hyperbole rules. nobody means "I'm playing meh" when they say "I'm tilted".

    If you have as much discipline as your pie chart suggests, then your A game sucks cuz you should be playing higher than 50s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    sure but this is the internet where hyperbole rules. nobody means "I'm playing meh" when they say "I'm tilted".

    If you have as much discipline as your pie chart suggests, then your A game sucks cuz you should be playing higher than 50s.

    Well yeah I didn't moneky tilt when my AA gets cracked and start shipping ATC if that's what you mean. I have had decent problems with tilt in the past. But obv as the chart suggest I have been working on my mental game lots and it has improved immensely. No doubt that my A game sucks to a certain degree but I'm working hard and doing my best. I'm constantly improving... not sure what else i can do to please you sir lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chatzilla View Post
    not sure what else i can do to please you sir lol
    I'm sure we can work something out...
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    I guess I just took issue with the notion that you didn't play a single hand significantly tilted all month, but if you define your E game to be "so tilted that you ship ATC" then I'll buy it.

    Good on yah for working on your mental game btw -- it's the most overlooked important thing to consistent winning in poker imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roid_Rage View Post
    You should learn to bluff less and value bet moar.

    Also, probably stop calling flops/turns just to fold turns/rivers....
    Many thanks for your input, Roid_Rage

    Can you tell me what you are doing to make these deductions?

    I'd like to be able to get more from my EOM data than just pretty lines

    Cheers!
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    I'm just guessing for the most part but they are probably two of the most common leaks at micros, especially 10nl and below.

    Your blue line is ok, but still fairly swongy. The more effectively you value bet, the more it's going to ///////

    Your red line tanks, so you're probably calling a street(s) and then deciding when you face more aggression that you're beat. Which is fine in some instances, but should never be your default.
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    Oh and more for the blue line, if you bluff the river and get called, it effects your SD winnings (obv).
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    I guess I just took issue with the notion that you didn't play a single hand significantly tilted all month, but if you define your E game to be "so tilted that you ship ATC" then I'll buy it.

    Good on yah for working on your mental game btw -- it's the most overlooked important thing to consistent winning in poker imo.

    here are my basic defs atm


    maybe your right I should make E game = F game and change D game to moderately tilted instead of strongly. I'm trying to be an honest as possible with the ratings but admittedly i didn't put in much volume and ran pretty well. This was the first full month I've ever done this so still working out the kinks get hyped for November charts/graph
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    The definitions really aren't that important imo. I mean I guess they are if you're trying to graph the amount of time you play in a specific state, but I think that's way too hard to quantify as the quality of your mental game is constantly in flux. It's pretty rare to play an entire session completely in one category or the other imo. The kind of precise introspection and constant (manual) recording required to accurately graph this would be too distracting when you're trying to focus on poker at the same time.

    A more useful practice than constantly recording your mental state during play (I'm not saying that's what you do, I assume you're averaging it over a session) is to constantly sample your mental state, and try to bring yourself back to an optimal, objective state. I found angelo's deep breathing suggestion helpful, as I've generally found all breathing-based meditations helpful. If all else fails, snap quit.

    I just jumped on you because I don't believe most people are particularly good at judging the quality of their mental state, and tend to underestimate the extent of tilt they're experiencing. Tilt puts you in a more primitive mental state where introspection becomes harder and harder as our reptilian brains take over. Apologies if you're better than most -- I don't know you and you may be better than I assumed.
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    Your A game sounds like what I'd call my B game. B game is where I make no obvious mistakes, play solidly, follow action, take notes and don't send IMs....I mean sending IMs during sessions is just dumb and something that shouldn't be in any of your games.

    My A game is where I make awesome plays I wouldn't normally see. Think outside the box to more to find new outlooks or relevant factors on spots I'd normally overlook. When I play my A game I find myself discovering new ways to exploit my opponents, I'm more in tune with the mistakes their making and how I can adjust to them. Stuff like that.

    Either make an A+ game and aim to play it as often as possible, or set the bar a bit higher for your A game imo.

    If you ever find yourself playing you C game as you have described it, quit your session. There's no reason to play if unfocussed and doing other shit on the internet or your phone at the same time. If you ever find yourself playing your E game then just switch to your F game and win all that monies back through run good ldo.
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    d0zer i def agree the way i've been dong it atm is after each session i write the estimate % of each game i played during that session then tally the daily results if I play multiple sessions. But I agree its incredibly hard... poker is so interesting to make you look at yourself and your mindset in a unbiased way like normal people almost never do this irl.

    Internet and IM is kinda a minor thing before each session i def close my browser and skype/fb but sometimes i will check back on something or my phone will ring and it will be important real life stuff but I dont do this very much prob over-hyped it by putting it in the descriptions.

    haha yeah I should def make a A+ game even if i hit it like 5% in a session that's a good idea

    As for C game quitting I kinda disagree. I would say atm my C game is breakeven-ish and If I quit everytime I start playing my C game I will never improve my C game I would only improve my quitting discipline. Some people will be like "I never tilt I just quit if etc etc happens" but that's not really solving their tilt problem that's just masking it. Because I can keep playing breakeven C game when etc etc happens but the other player has to quit and can't play at all. But 100% agree if I fall into D game and cant get back to A B or C
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    Wow not many graphs posted.

    I just got back to playing last month on Cake, I am 10-tabling 6-max trying to rebuild a BR.

    Ran 3.5BB/100. Mixed my play between 10NL and 20NL. I am just about rolled for 50NL, will likely end up there sometime in November.





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    By the way, for some reason the dollars on the graph are not accurate.. HM2 is buggy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw View Post
    HM2 is buggy.
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    I've recently switched from 6-max to FR, but didn't play that many hands in October. The month started like September ended, but I managed to win some hands the last week or so.

    Mixture of 10NL and 25NL.

    I also made $35 from rakeback and bonuses.

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