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    Default Official Don't Look at Trackers/Cashier Window Week: May 16-22

    Official Don't Look at Trackers/Cashier Window Week: May 16-22

    The idea is to not look at your PT/HEM/whatever or your cashier window for a week. Just grind your hands or hours then go about your business. Who's in?
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    Can we fucking petition HEM to give me a way to DELETE the entire $ column?

    WTF
    That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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    would love to do this cept i got a stop loss so i kinda need to know
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    !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeaselT View Post
    would love to do this cept i got a stop loss so i kinda need to know
    Stop losses only help people who pay attention to how much they've lost
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    In 'cause I'm cool. You guys should do what the cool kids are doing.
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    in.

    maybe you can extend this further when the week is over

    now for actual motivation, spoon should write a list of everyone participating in his main message with a box beside the names like so:

    [ ] Micro2Maco

    when the week is over, those who completed will have their box crossed off like so:

    [x] Micro2Macro

    while those who fail can have FAIL written in the box like so:

    [FAIL] dranger7070

    and also have their name posted in a new thread deemed 'The official thread of failures for the official don't look at...etc' thread.

    who's in now?
    Last edited by Micro2Macro; 05-16-2010 at 01:01 AM.
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    FFS another Official thread. *sigh*

    In
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    In, also lol @ the accurate examples M2M gave
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuFu690 View Post
    IN!

    Can we fucking petition HEM to give me a way to DELETE the entire $ column?

    WTF
    customise reports, use the red '-' button to the left to kill the $ field in the reports you use. ez game.

    oh, and not in this week. Maybe another time.
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    I want it gone from the Sessions tab
    That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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    wtf would be the point of the sessions tab then you noob
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    I think I'm missing something here. What's the point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanAronG View Post
    I think I'm missing something here. What's the point?
    an exercise in eliminating a result-oriented mentality?
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    V good idea tbh I'm in
    [20:19] <Zill4> god
    [20:19] <Zill4> u guys
    [20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
    [20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    Stop losses only help people who pay attention to how much they've lost
    I understand your sarcasm here but stop-losses are v important
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    Quote Originally Posted by dranger7070 View Post
    wtf would be the point of the sessions tab then you noob
    Um...hand review? But it makes sense that you only look back at your sessions to see how much you've won or lost.
    That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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    Mark hands to review during your session, use filters like 'Today' and I can do the same thing you do without having to use the sessions tab, but no you're absolutely right. I just look to see what I've won and lost.
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    You're swaying from the argument. You're inferring that the Sessions tab must have winnings on there or it'd be pointless.

    And I know I can use the "today" filter...but I find it easier to use the Sessions tab and keep my sessions separate.

    /highjack
    That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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    Yea, we can take this argument to IRC and stop hijacking spoon's thread lol.

    Also, I love that its basically only IRC guys for the most part that have signed up for this so far.
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    stupid idea.

    how am I supposed to know if should be tilting or not?
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    IN.

    I need to stop worrying about the result of a session and concentrate on decisions.
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    Thing is, if you're not worried about results anyway, I guess looking at your tracker isn't such a problem. I'm assuming that the more experienced players are over that results orientated hurdle by now.
    [20:19] <Zill4> god
    [20:19] <Zill4> u guys
    [20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
    [20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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    nvm I'm out. SnGs show my my BR every time I enter :P
    [00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
    [00:30] <DC> daven
    [00:30] <DC> on my hand?
    [00:30] <daven> yep
    [00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
    [00:30] <daven> nice reason
    [00:30] <daven> no further questions
    [00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

    Problem officer...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post
    nvm I'm out. SnGs show my my BR every time I enter :P
    So just don't play poker for a week??
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    i'm down... so am I not using HUD at all? I have hard time reading all posts so I may have missed it
    "Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donachello View Post
    nvm I'm out. SnGs show my my BR every time I enter :P
    So does buying into a cash table- it's not that hard to make the eyes not look at the BR while you're clicking the shiny "ys plz wann play nao" button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Santo2True View Post
    i'm down... so am I not using HUD at all? I have hard time reading all posts so I may have missed it
    Yes you can use a HUD. No you can't look at your stats/winnings/etc. A quick fix is to set your filter for some date that hasn't happened yet, like October 1, 2010.
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    got it, coo.. let the winning/losing begin..
    "Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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    In. Donno if I will make it to the 22nd.
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    I'll give it a go. IN
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    meh, can't really see any value in it, but I'll give it a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73 View Post
    I understand your sarcasm here but stop-losses are v important
    this
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    Im def. in. I've been thinking I'm too dependent on stats and very results oriented lately
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    pretty tits idea. i'm in 'cause it's really easy to do this when you're too busy to play poker.

    it's gonna be a jam-packed end of the month to keep my platinum star :/
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    <Penneywize> Kiwi / DC - u guys think it'd be a worthwhile experience for someone like me who has ~20k hands experience in 2NL overall? or should I just keep going and developing my game etc
    <DC> woudl what be worthwhile?
    <Penneywize> the whole 'week of not checking cashier/session results' thing
    <DC> yheah
    <DC> I did it when I was biting it at 5NL like 4 months ago
    <DC> and it worked out well
    <DC> and now I dont give a shit about my sessions
    <kiwiMark> You gain nothing from knowing the state of your bankroll
    <kiwiMark> and you stand to gain a shitload, depending on who you are
    <kiwiMark> (stand to gain from not knowing ldo)

    So, In.
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    I just finished a session. I never look at HEM while playing but I always go to HEM after my session and look at the hands I lost most with and review them. Then I usually take a note about the villain if his a reg and write down a little notes (like a line or two) in a notepad I have on my PC table that I try to think about and do/not do next time I play.

    With that being said, sometimes epic losing sessions or a few losing days in a row causes me to not play for a period of time (longest being two weeks or so but usually 3-5 days). Not looking at HEM and playing ofcourse would lead to a solution to this problem.

    Currently I'm not sure which of these is better. Not looking at HEM and being able to grind more or reviewing HH's more often and try to fix leaks.

    Since I've never not looked at my winnings/losings for a week, I shall give this a try. A week of not looking and then a long review session followed by another week of not looking.
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    IRC is good, but beware of false prophets.

    Too much conflicting information given.
    [20:19] <Zill4> god
    [20:19] <Zill4> u guys
    [20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
    [20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyPoker View Post
    IRC is good, but beware of false prophets.

    Too much conflicting information given.
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    it was directed at no one person lol
    [20:19] <Zill4> god
    [20:19] <Zill4> u guys
    [20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
    [20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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    Quote Originally Posted by L_Clan_Sup3rMaN View Post
    I just finished a session. I never look at HEM while playing but I always go to HEM after my session and look at the hands I lost most with and review them. Then I usually take a note about the villain if his a reg and write down a little notes (like a line or two) in a notepad I have on my PC table that I try to think about and do/not do next time I play.

    With that being said, sometimes epic losing sessions or a few losing days in a row causes me to not play for a period of time (longest being two weeks or so but usually 3-5 days). Not looking at HEM and playing ofcourse would lead to a solution to this problem.

    Currently I'm not sure which of these is better. Not looking at HEM and being able to grind more or reviewing HH's more often and try to fix leaks.

    Since I've never not looked at my winnings/losings for a week, I shall give this a try. A week of not looking and then a long review session followed by another week of not looking.
    If HEM would let you do a filter or a report to just see hands where you won/lost X big blinds, that could be useful for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by easypoker View Post
    irc is good, but beware of players that refuse help from others.
    fyp
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuFu690 View Post
    kkz dude
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    [20:19] <Zill4> u guys
    [20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
    [20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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    [fail]cbat
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    EP: If you didn't get conflicting information in IRC, it would either mean everyone there was a complete expert at poker or that poker was an easy easy game that could always be defined objectively by almost everyone.

    If you still think either of these is the case, you are a tard.
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    I failed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters View Post
    EP: If you didn't get conflicting information in IRC, it would either mean everyone there was a complete expert at poker or that poker was an easy easy game that could always be defined objectively by almost everyone.

    If you still think either of these is the case, you are a tard.
    W/e dude.

    Don't watch me, watch tv.
    [20:19] <Zill4> god
    [20:19] <Zill4> u guys
    [20:19] <Zill4> so fking hopeless
    [20:19] <Zill4> and dumb
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    Lol, how have you guys failed on Day 1 wtf.
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    I just did okay??
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    In.

    wow.. I like to open the cashier window alot.. Feels like something is missing. I think I can do it though. Good so far Today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I made it through Sunday. 6 more days to go!
    +1

    also I think this is the first post you've ever said something using an exclamation ! at the end.

    !
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    inb4 easypoker using exclamation marks
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer View Post
    stupid idea.

    how am I supposed to know if should be tilting or not?
    This needs more love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow View Post
    I made it through Sunday. 6 more days to go!
    +1
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    i'm starting today, i accidently looked yesterday when I was checking my bonus status =(
    "Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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    I'm in. I didn't play on the 16th.

    Is this a good idea for someone who just moved up or is it a good idea because I just moved up?
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    Running like crappp 2day...I cud see where this is helping cuz if I looked at HEM and saw i was -$500 or something it would stop me from grinding today and maybe tomorrow etc. too. But not knowing I am just gonna grind again after lunch.
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    Didnt see this yesterday...so in today
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    stoploss help - instead of looking at a specific $ amount, decide on a buy-in amount. Depending on how many buy-ins and how many tables you play, this could be very easy or not helpful at all.
    For example, I play with a 3 buy-in stop loss and play 2 or 3 tables. If I bust on a table, I just count "1" out loud to myself. If I get to saying "3", that's it for the session. If I leave a table with 2 buyins or more, I reduce any count I have by 1 and buyin regular at another table - I don't bother with going "+1" or anything if you're at zero, just leave it be.
    This may be against the spirit of this challenge, but most of us honestly play worse after we've lost a significant amount in one sitting, especially if it's getting felted several times in a row.
    I think this is better than using a specific $ amount because I'm actually going to start tilting after getting felted AGAIN, rather than simply losing that extra 4bbs that just happened to put me under a specific $ amount.
    As far as adding to your stack when you're low, I do that now and then and as long as it's a small amount, I don't count it. If I'm under 1/2 I count it as "1".
    I realize this is highly unscientific and inexact. I guess it's sort of straddling the fence on traditional thinking and total br disregard.
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    i can't believe i just read that whole thread. anyways. in.
    OP: Beginner to Master

    If I bet as a bluff, I should be thinking "am I getting better hands to fold? Is it likely that he will fold x% of the time to a y sized bet to make it +EV?". If I bet for value, I should be thinking "am I getting worst hands to call? Am I ahead of enough of his range that this is a good value bet?".
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    Can I have my own "Let's look at the cashier window every day for 500 consecutive days" - thread?
    spoiler: I already won.

    Props to anyone who makes it. I know I can't.
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    I made it through my first session. It's great to NOT give yourself a reason to tilt. About to put in a session...then five more days to go. WOOT.
    That's how winners play; we convince the other guy he's making all the right moves.
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    god i fail so bad... =( i couldn't do it... will try again tomorrow
    "Those who say it can't be done, shouldn't interrupt those who are doing it"
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    can we check our PTRs? or is that just totally defeating the purpose :P
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    im in. nah i looked, im out.
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    ^lmao
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    3 days down...4 more to go -_-

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