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    Default Please Explain 12/3 and Various Other Fractions

    This is from my last post, but I think it'll get lost in the mix.

    Renton wrote:

    "4/7 is far looser and more aggressive than 19 hand. 19 hand is something like 12/3 if I calculate correctly. '

    What are those numbers? How do you calculate them and what do they signify?

    Many thanks.

    Jigs
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    It is referring to pokertracker/poker office stats.

    The first number is the % of hands which player voluntarily puts money in the pot (aka VP$IP). In other words everytime you put money in the pot (raise/bet/call) that isn't a blind bet.

    The second number is the % of hands you raise preflop with. (PFR = Pre-Flop Raise)

    Typically a tight player is below 20 for their VP$IP. A loose player is above 35.

    Someone that limps everything, even AA would have a 0 as their PFR. Someone that raises any two in position would have a PFR of 15+.

    I think you misquoted the 4/7 - since that is impossible to have raised more times than you voluntarily put money in the pot (since raising qualifies as putting money in the pot)

    12/3 would be tight/weak
    50/25 would be a maniac

    There is also a stat called AF which = Aggression factor. That is the amount of times you bet/raise divided by the number of times you call/fold. So a calling station would have an AF between 0 and 0.5
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    Im the first number and I say how many hands the opponent plays/ Im the second number and I say how many hands the opponent RAISES preflop/ Im the third number and im a wierd forumla that says how many times the opponent bets or raises vrs calls or folds!
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    Default Re: Please Explain 12/3 and Various Other Fractions

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggus
    This is from my last post, but I think it'll get lost in the mix.

    Renton wrote:

    "4/7 is far looser and more aggressive than 19 hand. 19 hand is something like 12/3 if I calculate correctly. '

    What are those numbers? How do you calculate them and what do they signify?

    Many thanks.

    Jigs
    Im pretty sure you mean 14/7 there. 4/7 is incredibly tight and slightly impossible.
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    i play 4/7

    I only raise QQ, limp/reraise AA and KK
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    best post title ever.
    AWOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mb2447
    best post title ever.
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    12/3 = 4

    Do you see why?
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    Yup, my copy and paste cut off the 1. It was 14/7. Sorry.

    OK, all is clear now. I thought it would be a far more abstruse and exotic starting hand theory based on the orbit of Jupiter.

    I must admit that I have not paid enough attention to the various PT stats other than the obvious ones, but this is very interesting, and it helps me to understand my own game more.

    Thanks for this.

    By the way, surely my post titled, "Molybdenum Penguins Floating in a Vat of Boiling Acid" was a better title?
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    They're only floating, mate. Floating in a vat.

    Cooking.

    Steaming.

    Melting.

    Squealing.
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    Molybdenum ones squeal when you boil them in acid. A high-pitched, uluating, mournful wail of doom.

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