Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
good players know that, as good as they are, they are not better than getting a 4/1 price with AA pre flop.

Folding there in the beginning of a tourney is truly terrible play. It's terrible in the middle. It's generally going to be terrible with 5 players left. The only spot a fold works here is in a satellite or really steep payout situation.

The fact that you actually seem to think folding AA pre flop would EVER make sense says a lot. You do not understand pot odds.
Got to disagree with you drmcboy. I fully understand pot odds and the use of these is fundamental to good play. But I use them in different ways to other players and probably different to the way you use them.

Let's go back to the scenario - five all-ins and I hold AA. Against ANY ONE HAND, I am a favourite - probably a huge favourite.

However, against the COMBINED STRENGTH of FIVE OTHER HANDS, I am a dog - the odds are that one of these hands at least is going to hit something to beat me.

In a tournament, it only takes one hand to be eliminated. If this scenario occurs in the first round of a tournament, I will dump the AA as I am 67% to go oput of the tournament in the first hand. I wouldn't dump them against one or two opponents, of course, but against five I will.

It's a question of situation.

But more fundamental than pot odds is to know your opponents and your chance of outplaying them. If all you do is call when the odds are in your favour and play the math, then your play will be routine and mechanical and will lose to better players than yourself - and to worse players who will call and get lucky. If it was just a game of pot odds, why do the better players win consistently? Because there is MUCH MORE to this great game than pot odds!

Poker is about making the wrong move, but at the right time!!