Preflop ABCD range practice

we cannot just fold none, then we are going to be getting in a ton of shitty situations with 72o oop and the opponent will adjust SUPER fast

it would help alot if we knew his fold to 3bet

also i think someones steal % depends greatly on who is in the blinds, you said in your blog that you fold 82% of the time, so until you started 3betting the shit out of me or defending your blinds more i would be stealing ATC, so even though my ATS is 40%, against you i would be opening 100% RFI assuming someone else was tight in the sb too.

that being said you know before posting this that you can 3bet bluff a shitload until he adjusts by 4b bluffing or just defending really wide to 3bets.

If he is really raising 100% of hands or even 40% of hands then a lot of garbage hands that you would usually want to 3bet (as per muzzards 3betting post) gain value (ie A8o has between 52% and 54% equity vs various combinations of 40% of hands) but maybe thats not enough of a card advantage to make up for the lack of position (and maybe skill????) so a8o might be fairly borderline between flatting and 3betting

heres a loose skeleton of ranges

vs someoen stealing > or = 40%


Flat- A9s+, ATo+, suited broadways, suited connectors greater than 45, suited gappers 97+, 77-JJ

3bet- QQ+, 22-66, Axs, Kxs, and some suited shit like 95s, T6s

if the person is like ALWAYS folding to 3bets then i would take away some QQ+ and throw in more trash hands like Kxo

the reason i 3bet most of the pps is because they are pretty much worthless for setmining when your opponents range is soooooooo wide, so unless they have some value (ie 77+) i think they are better served as a bluff.

Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

we cannot just fold none, then we are going to be getting in a ton of shitty situations with 72o oop and the opponent will adjust SUPER fast

Right. My "fold none" was just the extreme strategy to exploit the villain, assuming he wouldn't adjust. I then explained that a more realistic strategy would be to only 3bet the top 20-30% of the range I listed for 3bets (implication: fold the rest).

Originally Posted by philly and the phanatics

the reason i 3bet most of the pps is because they are pretty much worthless for setmining when your opponents range is soooooooo wide, so unless they have some value (ie 77+) i think they are better served as a bluff.

I was thinking about this, too, and I wasn't sure which way to go. I left the small pocket pairs in our call range, but I think you may be right that they just don't have enough value unless they hit a set. Plus, if he does call our 3bet then we're playing our small pocket pairs against a much more narrow range, which is exactly what we want when we hit a set. Good call.