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					  Originally Posted by  d0zer
					 
				 
				3-betting an  UTG opener to "see where you're at" or "define your hand" (pretty much the same thing in essence) is retarded, especially when you have  position.  You bonks are so scared to play postflop  in position it's absurd.
 
That being said, this  villain does appear fairly  loose aggressive, and I doubt has a really narrow  UTG range unless his ATS is like 90% or something.  So i like the 3-bet pre for  value because his  calling range could very  well be wide also.  
			
		 
	 
 I'm sorry if my post didn't really clearly say this: 
 
-I think the 3-bet is even value with a flat call percent-wise. 
-If the pot gets bigger with a 3-bet (which is innately true) that is +EV 
-This ALSO tells me a bit about his range, AA and KK are not flat calling this often.  The main portion of my post was not addressing the EV, i simply stated that the EV would be relatively similar, even if you included my folding to a 4bet, and would in fact be +EV by further inspection.
					 
				 
				
			 
			 
		  
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