Quad 7s - Could I Have Got More Value Here

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Villain is 23/15/3 after 73 hands; kinda passive post-flop so far

UTG ($2.51)
MP ($8.11)
Hero (CO) ($15.10)
Button ($12.51)
SB ($5.16)
BB ($5)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7, 7
UTG calls $0.05, MP bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.67) 9, 7, 7 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45, 1 fold

I called here as I wanted him to lead Turn

Turn: ($1.57) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $1, MP calls $1

No luck. So...sizing here? I want to keep him in the hand LDO

River: ($3.57) 5 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero ???

Total pot: $3.57 | Rake: $0.17

$3

bet turn a little bigger
as played $3 on river is fine.

Originally Posted by DoubleJ

kinda passive post-flop so far

Don't expect this guy to lead the turn often. Multiway, I think flatting flop is OK but I'd probably raise.

3 on the river i think is a mistake.

Villain mostly has 2nd pair to the board or A high, so you want to bet something that gets called by 2nd pair. I would default to half pot or less, but it depends on what he thinks of you. If you want to bet $3, bet $2.8. A million supermarkets can't be wrong.
It's also a fun spot to overbet with your floats and nut hands because villains range is capped and he sets himself up for a guessing game on the river. You don't really want or need a bluffing range there at lolNL tho, so forget what I said.

wouldn't overbet here cause it's pretty hard to have pure floats in this spot

Good point.



I just want to add that I think $3 is bad in general, because 3.3 will get called with pretty much the same range, and 2.9 will get called with a wider range. I'm pretty sure I'm right on this, but I have nothing to back it up with other than a wikipedia link to a related subject with almost no useful information:
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$2.50 on river - nh - think about villain's river range and what sizing it can call.

Maybe even less given top of his range is like QQ.

Originally Posted by Carroters

Maybe even less given top of his range is like QQ.

this

If he's gonna call $2.50 wouldn't you think he'd call $2.80 ish?

Originally Posted by Shotglass

If he's gonna call $2.50 wouldn't you think he'd call $2.80 ish?

If he's gonna call $2.80 wouldn't he call $3.10?

If he calls $3.10 wouldn't he call $3.40?

Repeat a lot of times.

Shit we should just shove.....

Varies from villain to villain but my point I guess is that we could argue that for any bet size without really knowing where this villains inflection point is. Just gotta make a good estimate.

i wouldnt bet more than like 2.1 on this river

I like anything from 1.5-2$. I also might bet some stupidly small amount like 1.2$ to induce a raise with weaker hands.

f*ck it, let's check it back

i agree that more than $2.5 is too much here. we're basically only getting value from TT-QQ, and even some parts of that range may fold some non-zero %. i probably go $2.1

Is this an auction now?

Originally Posted by oskar

Is this an auction now?

Do I hear an overbet shove?

Sold!

Fuck it let's open fold

I would have just closed the table pre.

tree fiddy

This seems like a really easy, yank out ethernet cable/switch off wireless and email stars requesting the contents of the pot + 2bbs.

Originally Posted by Carroters

This seems like a really easy, yank out ethernet cable/switch off wireless and email stars requesting the contents of the pot + 2bbs.

but how will they get your email if you turned off your internets?

open shove pre you might hit quads

Originally Posted by kickass

open shove pre you might hit quads

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Originally Posted by baudib

Don't expect this guy to lead the turn often. Multiway, I think flatting flop is OK but I'd probably raise.

I think this is the best option. I believe he would flat call a min-raise and probably would c/c the turn still. This means you could probably get away with a bigger bet, more than $2.50, on the flop. My range on villian would be AQ+, 88+, and Ax.

Originally Posted by Magicman

I think this is the best option. I believe he would flat call a min-raise and probably would c/c the turn still. This means you could probably get away with a bigger bet, more than $2.50, on the flop. My range on villian would be AQ+, 88+, and Ax.

????????? i maybe drunk but ya what?

I think if he min raised to $.90 on the flop then on the turn when he checks you could bet around $1.50 to bring the pot up to $5.47, if he calls. Then on the river you can bet $3 to $3.50 without him folding some pp's since he has already invested so much. I don't know, maybe I am the one drunk, kickass. xD

Originally Posted by Carroters

we should just shove.....

I think any bet between $2 and pot is no good