Quote Originally Posted by L_Clan_Sup3rMaN
Quote Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
fwiw, L_Clan_Sup3rMan, I only started out on PS in mid April with a $50 deposit. On June 3rd I had $320 in my account and transitioned to cash (10nl) from SNGs. July 4th I started 25nl with $700 BR. July 29th I started 50nl with $1500 BR. Right now I'm sitting on ~$2100. So it is fairly achievable and if you put forth any decent amount of effort you will be able to do this is well under a year imo. I'm fairly sure I will be at 200nl by April or so next year, and I expect to make platinum either this month or next for sure.
Gratz on your achievement. To pull off something like that in about 2 months or so, you need to have certain poker skills you already have developed prior to doing this. Either that or you have an incredible learning curve.

It's completely possible for players who already know what they are doing to pull this off in a year (going from super micro to constant platinum). I was referring to total noobs who just started, as most people who start for the first time online are. Sure there are exceptions to that who have a strong live background n can do great online right off the bat, but thats not the case for most.

I just think a noobie trying to improve his game is better off not doing 40k hands a month but rather doing a lot less than that and spending the rest of the time studying/thinking on how he can improve and trying to implant that into his game.
First off, 10k hands/week is nothing, even if you're like 4-6 tabling, which is fine for new players playing full ring, for example. Even 4-tabling 6-max would make this pretty easy imo, leaving plenty of time for pure study. Also keep in mind that I'm saying an average of 50k hands/month over the course of a year. Obviously you're not going to start off playing 50k/hands month in your first month of poker, but by the 12th you will probably be playing more if you're putting in the effort required to improve during that whole year. And really the 50k hands/month thing is arbitrary -- I'd say the minimum would be 30k hands/month.

This is also taking into consideration the fact that you're probably a losing player when you start playing 2nl. By the time you move up to the next level, you should have put forth enough effort at the level before that you will be +EV at that level. The difference in skill required to beat different micro and low stake levels is not very high.

To pull off something like that in about 2 months or so, you need to have certain poker skills you already have developed prior to doing this. Either that or you have an incredible learning curve.
It's really easy to write off people who come up through micro and low stakes quickly as "already being good" or whatever other excuse you could come up with, but the fact is people like Stacks have worked for it and put in the time and effort required to get better. Like you said, "someone that CAN do this under a year shouldn't be doing this," is just an excuse to yourself so that you have a reason not to put forth the effort required.

Learning to beat something like 50nl/100nl/200nl full ring isn't a damn college degree that requires years of work to achieve, and the sooner people like you start to realize that, the quicker you'll be able to rival the money you will make in a job with poker. It doesn't take "an incredible learning curve" to do, not to undermine the progress Stacks has made, but he's really just one of the few new people who actually do the things we tell everyone to do to get better instead of bitching and arguing every chance they get or making excuses about how other people can do this shit and they cannot.