Quote Originally Posted by siltstrider
Quote Originally Posted by sarbox68
I'm also perfectly happy to fold the same 44 in the SB vs a Bu who's ATS range includes ATC, even tho' I'm getting 15:1... 'cause mostly I ain't getting sh!t if I h!t.
Can't this be exploited by widening your range, too, though? If you find that setmining isn't profitable because your opponent is always folding when you hit your sets, shouldn't you include more than sets in your range when you take "set lines?"

If your opponent can usually tell when your range has him beat, isn't it time to change your range?
I'm not saying I'm always folding that hand... I'm just saying that getting set odds isn't going to be the main reason to continue. Might fold, might 3bet, might flat and donk... it all depends. What am I trying to accomplish pre? What am I gonna do on the flop when I'm stuck OOP w/ 44 UI? It's obv all player dependent. But whatever I do, I'm continuing for a reason that's NOT predominantly driven by looking for a set 'cause, well, I has odds.