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 Originally Posted by swiggidy
Betting 440 into a 240 pot on the turn is a nice play?
1) Don't open limp
2) Don't play Kxs
3) Bet pot on turn, I have yet to find a spot where 2x pot is a good idea
4) Respect re-raises
Only idea I like is building the pot on the flop with your flush draw. However, I suspect your game is loose enough that this isn't necessary. If people will pay you off if a flush hits on the turn, don't bet the flop.
If you are going to playmoney, read all the stickies and follow starting hand requirements. Then if you post a hand you might get useful responses instead of a bunch of sarcastic responses (which is totally warranted).
Look, I appreaciate the fact that you took the time to respond, even if the answer is a bit condesending.
The RTFM is a bit unwarranted though. I have indeed read the stickies, I've read the starting hand requirements, but I've been following those in FTR's starting hands chart. Kxs is the highest of those listed in the group 7 (?) list. It says play depending on...
Now, I thought that the conditions were right to make it worth a go and after I saw the flop I felt happy having put in 20 chips in to see it (I'm probably wrong, which is why this post is in the beginner's cirlce).
So point (2) I'll accept if you mean don't play Kxs IN THIS SORT OF SITUATION.
As for point (1) this contradicts what I read in the strategy section where the advice for the small pair (group 6 hands) is
"So, here is how I play these first five hands - I try to see the flop for cheap, which means limping in or calling small raises"
So if one limps for group 6, why not group 7? I mean again, I may be ignorant, but it's not a stupid conclusion to come to.
If you really believe points 1+2 then I'd be happy to hear your reasons.
Point (3): Thanks. Sounds like good advice.
Part of my betting strategy, though, is to try to judge what the bets mean on the table. For instance in a bragging-rights home game with some friends I made what I thought was a standard bet (3xBB) and they looked at me like I'd gone all-in.
My question is: surely if part of betting is to send a message to the other players, you want to adjust the size of the bet so they "get the message"?
Point (4): Thanks again. I have found that balance difficult.
I mean, it's worked so well for me to re-raise someone when I know they've got the same hand as me (for example, the five cards on the board) and watched them fold that I suspect others would try the same.
Again, thanks for taking the time to write. And a little sarcasm is small price for the odd gems of advice one gets here.
But I do feel it's a bit unfair to be mocked when I was trying to follow advice gleaned from this site... even if I followed it wrongly.
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