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    Default Top pair+straight draw to a reraise. Call or fold?

    PokerStars Game #6354549793: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/09/20 - 13:01:11 (ET)
    Table 'Vibilia II' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: shades5829 ($17.25 in chips)
    Seat 2: CUon6thSt ($103.60 in chips)
    Seat 3: Anon_E_Moose ($102 in chips)
    Seat 4: Wutzge ($40.50 in chips)
    Seat 5: AceBaron ($90.45 in chips)
    Seat 6: toothman98 ($79.35 in chips)
    Seat 7: Circles ($33.75 in chips)
    Seat 8: BucRepeat ($98.50 in chips)
    Seat 9: tutoy ($17.50 in chips)
    Anon_E_Moose: posts small blind $0.50
    Wutzge: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Anon_E_Moose [6d 7s]
    AceBaron: calls $1
    toothman98: folds
    Circles has timed out
    Circles: folds
    Circles is sitting out
    BucRepeat: folds
    tutoy: calls $1
    shades5829: calls $1
    CUon6thSt: folds
    Anon_E_Moose: calls $0.50
    Wutzge: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5s 7c 4d]
    Circles has returned
    Anon_E_Moose: checks
    Wutzge: checks
    AceBaron: checks
    tutoy: bets $3
    shades5829: calls $3
    Anon_E_Moose: raises $7 to $10
    Wutzge: raises $29.50 to $39.50 and is all-in
    AceBaron: folds
    tutoy: calls $13.50 and is all-in
    shades5829: folds
    Anon_E_Moose: ?
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    don't check raise. lead the betting instead because only a better hand will call or push on your check raise.

    as played, you gotta fold cause you're not ahead.
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    You did this to yourself.
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    Look at it from the rereraisers position. Someone bets, gets called, then you come out and check raise (showing more strength then you actually have), and then he check raises the check raiser who just check raised the raiser/caller all in. Thats a lot of check raising so you know he def beats youre top pair no kicker. He prob flopped a set/straight, and at the least has top two pair. In any case, the fact that you have top pair is irrelavant, as another 6 or seven wont help.

    So what this comes down to is do you want to push your chips all in on the strength of your oesd. An oesd that might be drawing to the split.

    I think you know the answer to that.

    By the way, dont check raise, lead the pot.
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    don't check raise. lead the betting instead because only a better hand will call or push on your check raise.
    Also you're creating a big pot with a crappy transparant draw OOP and will be awkward when you whiff the turn. After c/r'ing fold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by izybx
    Look at it from the rereraisers position. Someone bets, gets called, then you come out and check raise (showing more strength then you actually have), and then he check raises the check raiser who just check raised the raiser/caller all in. Thats a lot of check raising so you know he def beats youre top pair no kicker. He prob flopped a set/straight, and at the least has top two pair. In any case, the fact that you have top pair is irrelavant, as another 6 or seven wont help.

    So what this comes down to is do you want to push your chips all in on the strength of your oesd. An oesd that might be drawing to the split.

    I think you know the answer to that.

    By the way, dont check raise, lead the pot.
    ^^ That's a lot of quoting

    izybx - I like your posts. They provide a good deal of insight on your thought process, in this case especially how the TP part of his hand is now worthless.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rondavu
    We will not support your pocket pair aggression.

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