[quote="Monty3038"]Hmm...

I'm likely to shove this. He's only calling a shove with a set. Unless he is lost... IMO...

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So you're turning TP+NFD into a bluff? I bet turn b/c draws are calling on turn, but on river they either fold when they miss or bet if they hit. FWIW if river wasn't queen or if there wasn't ss checking behind to pick up bluffs or make value bets on river isnt so bad. Also, for me a big part of what sucks about checking behind turn is if he shoves river we are in a bad spot. Oh and if spade doesn't come and you checked turn you are going to vb 100%